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   Ika Makimaki (pezmico@mastodon.nz)'s status on Monday, 06-Jan-2025 00:40:20 JST Ika Makimaki

   I don't necessarily disagree that phones might be harmful for kids' development.

   I just don't know if they're nearly as harmful as say, repeated covid infections, a collapsing biosphere, a justifiably bleak vision of their future, or even a prevalent lack of agency, independence, and spaces for socialisation.

   I'd focus on those first. Then phones.

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 06-Jan-2025 00:40:17 JST Rich Felker

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     @pezmico Phones are about as harmful to kids' development as libraries are.

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     Janis (janisf@mstdn.social)'s status on Monday, 06-Jan-2025 02:41:25 JST Janis

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     @pezmico But if we take away the window to the shitstorm world, our kids can stay in our windowless McMansion enjoying the same wealth-supported ignorance we do.

     What. We turned out OK. We're good parents. We worked hard to provide. Their C-PTSD *can't* be us.

     (/s)

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     Ika Makimaki (pezmico@mastodon.nz)'s status on Monday, 06-Jan-2025 02:41:47 JST Ika Makimaki

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     "WE NEED TO PROTECT THE BRAINS OF OUR PRECIOUS CHILDREN!"

     -By making it so they don't repeatedly catch a neurologically damaging infection twice a year by just attending school?

     "LOL NO. IT'S THE PHONES, OBVIOUSLY! TAKE THEM AWAY!"

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     Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br) (lxo@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Monday, 06-Jan-2025 03:43:48 JST Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br)

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     • Rich Felker
     hmm, let's see
     
     in libraries, librarians may suggest good books for kids to read
     
     on phones, megacorps will distract kids with notifications and ads
     
     they are not the same
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     Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br) (lxo@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Monday, 06-Jan-2025 03:51:37 JST Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br)

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     that's a false dichotomy, I'm afraid
     
     as much as surveillance capitalism wants you to think there are only these two choices, nothing would stop kids (or anyone else, for that matter) from participating in society without a remotely-controlled tracking device packed with attention grabbers, but rather with a communication device that served its users
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     cuan_knaggs (mensrea@freeradical.zone)'s status on Monday, 06-Jan-2025 20:37:11 JST cuan_knaggs

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     @pezmico this children and phones panic sounds exactly like the children and TV panic of the 70s/80s and the children and reading panic of the 20s. all bullshit

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 06-Jan-2025 21:27:45 JST Rich Felker

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     • Dragon-sided D

     @dragonsidedd @pezmico You're buying into adtech's marketing propaganda. The edtech companies that have infested the schools know more about kids than any garbage installed on a phone does.

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     Dragon-sided D (dragonsidedd@sciencemastodon.com)'s status on Monday, 06-Jan-2025 21:27:46 JST Dragon-sided D

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     • Rich Felker

     @dalias @pezmico
     I cannot seem to find a way in which libraries provide a portal to track a child's every move 24x7, build a profile of them, and specifically manipulate their political and economic life

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     Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br) (lxo@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 03:29:10 JST Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br)

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     • Dragon-sided D
     DRMed books are the way libraries are being forced to provided that portal, alas
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