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   Adrianna Tan (skinnylatte@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 03-Jan-2025 13:10:57 JST Adrianna Tan

   I don’t care about your politics, but if your take on ‘legal immigrants’ is ‘I am an experienced American software engineer and H1Bs are taking my jobs because they are low paid slaves’, you have bad politics

   #Immigration

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     Adrianna Tan (skinnylatte@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 03-Jan-2025 13:13:35 JST Adrianna Tan

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     Billionaire sick etc but you are not listening to the immigrants who are saying that we are aware of the problems and this is still something we choose to do, don’t speak for us, ever

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     Adrianna Tan (skinnylatte@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 03-Jan-2025 13:20:14 JST Adrianna Tan

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     I keep saying, leftists’ concern-commenting about H-1Bs is going to give Stephen Miller bipartisan backing to do batshit horrible things with ‘legal immigration’

     We don’t need your activism, or for you to save us, we need you to be aware of xenophobia no matter who is doing the xenophobia

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     Adrianna Tan (skinnylatte@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 03-Jan-2025 13:21:01 JST Adrianna Tan

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     It’s xenophobia because you’re still buying into the ‘H-1Bs are just ‘less than’ Americans narrative’.

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     Adrianna Tan (skinnylatte@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 03-Jan-2025 13:31:14 JST Adrianna Tan

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     Also if you genuinely believe the reason you don’t have a job is because employers would rather spend $25K on a new H-1B employee who only has a 1 in 4 chance of getting a visa, just to fuck you over specifically, instead of fucking up everyone specifically and generally because they can, I don’t know what world you live in. I get that its an attractive idea to blame someone

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     Adrianna Tan (skinnylatte@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 03-Jan-2025 13:33:07 JST Adrianna Tan

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     @gglockner everyone suddenly has a ‘I’ve been in tech 40 years and I saw for myself how H-1Bs are just wage slaves with utterly no agency or ability’ story.

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     Greg Glockner (gglockner@social.seattle.wa.us)'s status on Friday, 03-Jan-2025 13:33:08 JST Greg Glockner

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     @skinnylatte And I doubt someone like that is good at his/her job, either.

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     Mastodon Migration (mastodonmigration@mastodon.online)'s status on Friday, 03-Jan-2025 13:46:39 JST Mastodon Migration

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     @skinnylatte

     Or it could be that the US education system has been so hollowed out to suit the demonic schemes of the billionaire wanna be oligarchs that on average domestic engineering talent is pretty piss poor and comes with a grossly overinflated estimation of its worth. Dude, maybe they are just better than you.

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     Adrianna Tan (skinnylatte@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 03-Jan-2025 13:46:39 JST Adrianna Tan

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     @mastodonmigration I wouldn’t put too much stock into that us vs them idea, it is impossible to compare anyway. But many people do come from education systems which are very under-resourced as well.

     But there is some stock in the idea that the people who end up in positions to move to the U.S. for school or work do tend to have an outsized amount of ambition and motivation, regardless of their resources, so it’s hard to compare the top % of each country with a general swathe of any population

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     Adrianna Tan (skinnylatte@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 03-Jan-2025 16:09:40 JST Adrianna Tan

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     • Falcon Darkstar

     @falcon yep. All of it sucks. Unfortunately that’s not what the new critics are complaining about. They’re complaining about us taking up high paid jobs, how dare we. The only conceivable reason must be because we have no agency.

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     Falcon Darkstar (falcon@mastodon.falconk.rocks)'s status on Friday, 03-Jan-2025 16:09:41 JST Falcon Darkstar

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     @skinnylatte having come here via TN status, I have to say, the problems being complained about are mostly real (not job shortages though), but they are all caused by the system and not the immigrants. I could not bargain my salary properly for years because of it, which totally drove wages down. A work visa not tied to one employer would immediately solve that. Then there was the PERM process which did not require bona fide recruitment, but did require we accept resumes by fax.

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     Falcon Darkstar (falcon@mastodon.falconk.rocks)'s status on Friday, 03-Jan-2025 16:10:19 JST Falcon Darkstar

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     @skinnylatte if anyone has a bone to pick with the labour market in tech I suggest they look at the companies firing 20% of their team for absolutely no reason, or the people laying off entire departments and trying unsuccessfully to replace that labour with "AI", or more broadly, the investment community redirecting resources away from engineers building things and toward bidding up the price of hardware. It's been frustrating to watch less and less useful work get done because of investors.

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 03-Jan-2025 16:14:00 JST Rich Felker

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     @skinnylatte I'm not going to blame the immigrants or oppose H1Bs over this special case, but one concrete harm of the system is that it allows filling tech jobs that wouldn't exist (and shouldn't exist) without holding employees' residence status hostage. Twitter would have ceased to exist 2 years ago if Elon hadn't held leverage over H1B employees.

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     Adrianna Tan (skinnylatte@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 03-Jan-2025 16:35:46 JST Adrianna Tan

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     • Rich Felker

     @dalias in a better job market this is less of an issue as employees can simply get a new job and transfer their status. The problem is the bad job market. Not an ideal system, but it is the same in every country. Every country’s work visa for foreigners is exactly the same. Unless the US wants to innovate on this area, and we should.