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   Adrianna Tan (skinnylatte@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 30-Dec-2024 17:55:29 JST Adrianna Tan

   The events of the last couple of days have shown me that many ‘nice’, not Republican people want to see where on the pecking order they can place immigrants. Ideally below them as ‘natives’. If we are desperate enough they’ll be happy to toss us a bone. But if we make more money than they think we should, we shouldn’t be allowed to take ‘their place’. We shouldn’t be allowed to be ‘cheap labor’ either.

   #Immigration #H1B

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     Adrianna Tan (skinnylatte@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 30-Dec-2024 18:01:13 JST Adrianna Tan

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     What really gets me is how dehumanizing all of this is. You don’t like H-1Bs and think it needs to be restricted, because you don’t like Elon? You have no idea how any of this works and how you’re advocating for harming half a million people who are just trying to make a life for themselves. You’re no better than those other people.

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     Adrianna Tan (skinnylatte@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 30-Dec-2024 18:02:30 JST Adrianna Tan

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     • Asta [AMP]

     @aud yup

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     Asta [AMP] (aud@fire.asta.lgbt)'s status on Monday, 30-Dec-2024 18:02:31 JST Asta [AMP]

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     @skinnylatte@hachyderm.io is it okay if I boost this? I think this should be said really loudly but also I don't want to open you up to harassment.

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     Sean Bala (seanbala@mas.to)'s status on Monday, 30-Dec-2024 18:13:11 JST Sean Bala

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     @skinnylatte I have been thinking about this lately - I am tired of fighting against ideas that feel true but are not. On a similar vein, twice in the past week, I have has conversations with random strangers on Chicago who insist that migrants are taking housing from real Americans. Our leaders care more about strangers than our homeless. It is "truthiness" and it is almost impossible to quash. I still keep telling the truth but I get tired of pushing that boulder up the hill.

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     Adrianna Tan (skinnylatte@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 30-Dec-2024 18:13:18 JST Adrianna Tan

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     In mid November I was preparing for ‘those guys are going to be terrible on immigration again’. In late December I’m wondering why those guys are better on immigration than ‘my people’.

     I guess none of them are my people and immigrants are just political footballs that people frankly don’t see as people.

     I advocate for *all* immigrants loudly and clearly, no matter what papers they have, or don’t.

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     Adrianna Tan (skinnylatte@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 30-Dec-2024 18:15:55 JST Adrianna Tan

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     I think a lot of people are sliding into nativist America First dressed up as some liberal ideology, and mistaking that for wanting to put Americans First. Because you all feel neglected by this country. I guess taking it out on the newcomers is the most American thing you can do.

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     Adrianna Tan (skinnylatte@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 30-Dec-2024 18:20:37 JST Adrianna Tan

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     Today, I met a friend who has a 15 year wait for a green card. His manager ‘forgot’ to tell him the results of his immigration process, which he has no control or visibility over. When he found out what happened, he had only 3 days, instead of 3 months, to respond to paperwork that will change his life.

     Every single one of us goes through inhumane processes with bigots and bureaucracy. Every one of us suffers with how even ‘nice’ people don’t understand how they can impact us like this.

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     Adrianna Tan (skinnylatte@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 30-Dec-2024 18:25:42 JST Adrianna Tan

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     The reason why there are thousands of people risking life and death and the Darien gap is that they have 3x more of a chance of getting work authorization than a H-1B does.

     Apparently, I’ve read from US liberal mastodon all week that it’s super easy to get a visa to come and take your jobs. Think about that.

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     Adrianna Tan (skinnylatte@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 30-Dec-2024 18:44:32 JST Adrianna Tan

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     • Asta [AMP]

     @aud read this piece by RR and all the comments. There are a bunch of folks here who I would call RR Dems, who are exactly like this

     https://robertreich.substack.com/p/why-the-muskrat-is-wrong-about-opening

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     Asta [AMP] (aud@fire.asta.lgbt)'s status on Monday, 30-Dec-2024 18:44:33 JST Asta [AMP]

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     @skinnylatte@hachyderm.io I can’t say I’m surprised to hear that people are doing this but it is very fucking disgusting that this is happening.
     
     Elon is a ridiculous fucking sham of a person and all he does is exploit whatever, and whomever, he can. The fact that self-proclaimed leftists are immediately blaming the visa system instead of the guy who really sucks and makes a ton of problems for literally everyone on this goddamn planet is just… ugh. I’m sorry. I’ve been sick and am clearly in a bubble because I haven’t seen any of this. You, and every person in this goddamn country and elsewhere deserves none of this garbage.
     
     Elon isn’t even pro immigration, he’s just pro exploitation. That’s it. For fuck’s sake.

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     Adrianna Tan (skinnylatte@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 30-Dec-2024 18:50:08 JST Adrianna Tan

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     I have another friend who literally educates your best and brightest in a public school, and she probably has to leave because her school totally bungled her H-1B renewal and green card in an almost comedic fashion.

     I know people from ‘good countries’ (the ones you say you want more immigrants from! Not brown or black people!) with advanced degrees who have gone through so much shit you can’t even imagine. Life-changing, overnight hair-greying degrees of experiences with the immigration system

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     Adrianna Tan (skinnylatte@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 30-Dec-2024 18:56:11 JST Adrianna Tan

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     • Asta [AMP]

     @aud lol and I got to it by seeing people post here, agreeing with him

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     Asta [AMP] (aud@fire.asta.lgbt)'s status on Monday, 30-Dec-2024 18:56:12 JST Asta [AMP]

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     @skinnylatte@hachyderm.io Allowing many more skilled workers into the United States reduces any incentives on American business to invest in the American workforce. Why do so when they can get talent from abroad?Allowing many more skilled workers into the U.S. also reduces the bargaining power of skilled workers already in America — and thereby reduces any incentive operating on other Americans to gain the skills for such jobs.Jesus CHRIST how could anyone write such drivel. These are the fucking galaxy brains that have been running this shit show?
     
     Why, pray tell, would allowing more skilled workers come in reduce the incentive to hire citizens? What’s the logic behind that? Does it have anything to do with, ohhhh, I dunno, them being easier to exploit?
     
     And then he fucking leads into an argument “reducing the bargaining power” BUDDY. BUDDY MY DUDE. WHAT bargaining power? Bargaining power is not given, it is (rightfully) taken.
     
     These assholes have eaten 99% of the goddamn pie and arguing over who gets the scraps. Fuck em.
     
     Jesus Christ, this is the most asshole article I’ve read in a minute.

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     Asta [AMP] (aud@fire.asta.lgbt)'s status on Monday, 30-Dec-2024 18:56:13 JST Asta [AMP]

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     @skinnylatte@hachyderm.io oh Jesus CHRIST
     
     What a fucking load of garbage. God. That’s infuriating.

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     Asta [AMP] (aud@fire.asta.lgbt)'s status on Monday, 30-Dec-2024 18:56:13 JST Asta [AMP]

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     @skinnylatte@hachyderm.io “which side is right?”, he asks. NEITHER THEY BOTH SUCK EGGS. god.

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     Adrianna Tan (skinnylatte@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 30-Dec-2024 19:00:37 JST Adrianna Tan

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     I’ve now decided it’s probably unsafe to share any details about my immigration journey with anyone unless they are also immigrants. After all, I did read a ‘liberal’ say they should call ICE if they think that a H1B got a job over a ‘native American’. Who needs ICE when you have blue state fash?

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     Adrianna Tan (skinnylatte@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 30-Dec-2024 19:04:26 JST Adrianna Tan

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     @aud oh someone also told me that we should reduce H1Bs so ‘they bring caste discrimination over here’

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     Asta [AMP] (aud@fire.asta.lgbt)'s status on Monday, 30-Dec-2024 19:04:27 JST Asta [AMP]

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     @skinnylatte@hachyderm.io how can someone frame this as a “labor issue” and think about it for more than two seconds and not come to the conclusion that what we need is better support and protections for workers. Why would a business prefer an H1B holder? Is it because they’re more skilled? Let’s say yes for the sake of argument. Why are you then insisting it’s the role of business to train citizens with the necessary skills instead of, say, the fucking state!? Maybe we lack “skilled” workers because of issues like our terrible for profit education system! Maybe we lack “skilled” workers because our educational system actively discriminates against more than half the population! Or because companies are biased against hiring women and BIPOC and don’t think of them as skilled! Maybe we’d have more “skilled citizens” if some of systemic issues were worked on?
     
     god. how was the this guy allowed near policy.

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 30-Dec-2024 20:22:53 JST Rich Felker

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     @skinnylatte @aud Fuck around & find out, Robert Reich.

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 30-Dec-2024 20:26:54 JST Rich Felker

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     @skinnylatte @aud I was hoping there'd be a textbox for reason ("your spokesperson is writing MAGA wankpieces") but sadly nope.

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     phillmv (phillmv@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 30-Dec-2024 23:16:42 JST phillmv

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     @skinnylatte between the genocide in gaza and being trans, this year has really shown me how fragile the consensus is on “not being a huge shithead”

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     Adrianna Tan (skinnylatte@hachyderm.io)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Dec-2024 00:54:01 JST Adrianna Tan

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     • Mark Kraft

     @KraftTea yeah be sucks. He’s not on anyone’s side. But the people who aren’t loudly defending immigrants worry me when they think they’re the good guys.

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     Mark Kraft (krafttea@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Dec-2024 00:54:02 JST Mark Kraft

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     @skinnylatte Yeah, the issue never was that H-1B visas were bad for the country, as far as Elon goes. (For that matter, neither are visas for migrant workers or simply letting ANYONE work in the country.)

     The issue is that Elon is a hypocrite who broke the rules to work in the country, routinely violated labor laws, endangering his workers, moved much of his labor to Texas where he can screw his workers over harder, and is exactly the person who shouldn't be the poster boy for H1-B.