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   Darth ŠČ! ✞ (darth@silversword.online)'s status on Monday, 30-Dec-2024 17:02:21 JST Darth ŠČ! ✞

   I am a bit puzzled with #Polish.

   Kobietą
   Kobieta

   The difference is in the last letter and with an accent it reads like “ou” instead of “a” but I can’t quite understand when do I use which.

   Not just kobieta, but any noun that has or has not this accent on the last letter.

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     Alfred M. Szmidt (amszmidt@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 30-Dec-2024 17:02:15 JST Alfred M. Szmidt

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     • Robert "Szkodnix"

     @darth how would you say “I am a doctor” and “I need to go to the doctor” in Croatian? @szkodnix

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     Darth ŠČ! ✞ (darth@silversword.online)'s status on Monday, 30-Dec-2024 17:02:16 JST Darth ŠČ! ✞

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     • Robert "Szkodnix"

     @szkodnix cases are not the problem on their own, as we also have seven of them. It’s just how they are being constructed in Polish is very different so that’s why I am trying to make sense of it before I move on,

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     Robert "Szkodnix" (szkodnix@sk.szkod.ovh)'s status on Monday, 30-Dec-2024 17:02:17 JST Robert "Szkodnix"

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     @darth@silversword.online It will come in time.
     
     And yes, cases in Polish language are one of the hardest thing that just requires more practice (those are also present in, for example Russian as well, but in Russian it is more straightforward).
     
     In absolutely worst case scenario you can take an approach of most of foreigners, which is to not care about cases at all 😅
     
     You will be perfectly understood by Polish people, it will just not be entirely proper.
     
     Still I sent you an article that explains this situation quite well.

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     Darth ŠČ! ✞ (darth@silversword.online)'s status on Monday, 30-Dec-2024 17:02:18 JST Darth ŠČ! ✞

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     • Robert "Szkodnix"

     @szkodnix unfortunately for me, in Croatian there is no difference between “Ja sam Andrea” (I am Andrea) and “Ja sam žena” (I am a woman). So the Polish structure is clearly more complex and I want to properly build my foundation before placing more knowledge on top of weak foundation, if that makes sense. I am not speed running this.

     Thanks for the reply, I will chew on it for a bit until it starts to make sense.

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     Robert "Szkodnix" (szkodnix@sk.szkod.ovh)'s status on Monday, 30-Dec-2024 17:02:20 JST Robert "Szkodnix"

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     @darth@silversword.online It's the matter of a different case in this word.
     
     "Kobieta" is just a regular nominative (who? what?). "Kobietą" is instrumental case form (with whom? with what?). That is a more complex answer.
     
     I imagine however that you wish to know why it is rather "jestem kobietą" than "jestem kobieta". In this second case, if you say to a typical Polish person "jestem kobieta" it would be understood like... you were saying that your name is "kobieta" and not to indicate that you are a woman (=your gender is woman).
     
     Same would be with professions:
     "Jestem lekarzem" (I am a doctor, my profession is doctor) instead of "Jestem lekarz" (I am doctor, probably name?)
     
     https://mowicpopolsku.com/polish-grammar/cases/instrumental/

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     Alfred M. Szmidt (amszmidt@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 30-Dec-2024 18:29:23 JST Alfred M. Szmidt

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     • Robert "Szkodnix"

     @darth Was mostly curious. Thanks!

     @szkodnix

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     Darth ŠČ! ✞ (darth@silversword.online)'s status on Monday, 30-Dec-2024 18:29:24 JST Darth ŠČ! ✞

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     • Robert "Szkodnix"

     @amszmidt @szkodnix

     Ja sam doktor
     Trebam ići doktoru

     So doktor is nominativ / mianownik
     And doktoru is dativ / celownik

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     Alfred M. Szmidt (amszmidt@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 30-Dec-2024 18:32:25 JST Alfred M. Szmidt

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     • Robert "Szkodnix"

     @darth What about, "I am with a woman"?

     @szkodnix