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   LadyMont (ladymont@spinster.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 28-Dec-2024 07:17:30 JST LadyMont
   There was this idea that humans arrived and killed everything off very quickly — what’s called ‘Pleistocene overkill,’” said Daniel Odess, an archaeologist at White Sands National Park in New Mexico. But new discoveries suggest that “humans were existing alongside these animals for at least 10,000 years, without making them go extinct."
   
   https://www.ctvnews.ca/sci-tech/giant-sloths-and-mastodons-coexisted-with-humans-for-millennia-in-americas-new-discoveries-suggest-1.7153332
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     KeepTakingTheSoma (keeptakingthesoma@spinster.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 28-Dec-2024 07:17:53 JST KeepTakingTheSoma

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     @LadyMont It's climate change - duh!
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     LadyMont (ladymont@spinster.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 28-Dec-2024 08:11:05 JST LadyMont

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     @KeepTakingTheSoma Actually it was very likely climate change that killed off mega fauna.
     
     https://beta.capeia.com/planetary-science/2019/06/03/disappearance-of-ice-age-megafauna-and-the-younger-dryas-impact
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     KeepTakingTheSoma (keeptakingthesoma@spinster.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 28-Dec-2024 08:11:18 JST KeepTakingTheSoma

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     @LadyMont Just not the right sort of climate change.
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     ӀɑվӀɑ ɑӀҽ×ɑղժɾօѵղɑ ? (laylaalexandrovna@spinster.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 29-Dec-2024 03:22:08 JST ӀɑվӀɑ ɑӀҽ×ɑղժɾօѵղɑ ?

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     @LadyMont @KeepTakingTheSoma These theories of 'hunting to extinction' always seemed counterintuitive to me. Why would subsistence tribal community with no trace of capitalism or even trade ever want to hunt any species to death?
     
     As a class we went to a buffalo drop in Sask. Just being there was terrifying and it seemed highly unlikely that local natives could have been capable of such waste.
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     KeepTakingTheSoma (keeptakingthesoma@spinster.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 29-Dec-2024 03:24:21 JST KeepTakingTheSoma

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     • ӀɑվӀɑ ɑӀҽ×ɑղժɾօѵղɑ ?
     @LaylaAlexandrovna @LadyMont You make an excellent point. As often with historical evidence or interpretation thereof, more questions than answers.
     This is why I fear the righteousness of the educated classes; they seem to want to look no further into anything once they have the *answer* that fits their narrative.
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     ӀɑվӀɑ ɑӀҽ×ɑղժɾօѵղɑ ? (laylaalexandrovna@spinster.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 29-Dec-2024 05:12:52 JST ӀɑվӀɑ ɑӀҽ×ɑղժɾօѵղɑ ?

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     • KeepTakingTheSoma
     @KeepTakingTheSoma @LadyMont They're some of the worst because they're not necessarily any more intelligent or logical than anyone else. Yet because they are apparently wealthy, all sorts of unearned traits are attached to them. And they start to believe their own hype. Then other people start to believe their hype.
     
     Why would they want to tamper with their understanding of reality when they believe they've already bent it to their will?
     
     And weirdly loads of people have decided that the elites must be right or why would so many people be hanging on their every word? And since every one knows we're all EQUAL (lol, having misinterpreted that concept as well), they start acting just like rich hot shots who also think they can do anything they please regardless of the consequences.
     
     Even worse, there doesn't seem to be any way of stopping this wrong-footed process short of wars and death. Way too many people have been carried away with what they believe is right for them without really thinking it through.
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