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YEAH SEE, GERMANS GET IT
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@druid not sure what that means but you can take my bicycle from my cold dead hands
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Unless they are soy euromutt bikecel Germans
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@druid stay in your air conditioned cage and move nothing but your toes ig
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@snacks
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@druid tbh, i'm not really sure what we're even arguing, i just like cycling
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@druid most people don't have trucks as their personal vehicle either?
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@snacks Okay, when you need to move house and you have to call a big boy with a truck to move all your shit for you, why don't you just strap it to your bike and ride there instead?
Face it, our species needs almost every vehicle type we have ever invented, the idea of living life in single shopping bag loads is an urbane fantasy
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@druid i'm not saying cars should all disappear
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@druid you are reading stuff i've never written
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@snacks So what? It doesn't change the fact that you need them, does it? What about when you need to move something like a Christmas tree or a desktop PC, then? What about when you need to travel hundreds of miles at a second's notice? Or you need to go somewhere in the middle of the night? Or you need to go somewhere in the middle to a storm? Or you need to go somewhere outside of the public transportation network? Or when you need to rush someone to hospital? Or when you are injured? Or when you are transporting a pet?
I have done every one of these things multiple times in my life, often multiple times in a WEEK, and every last one of them hard requires a car. The only one that can be whatbouted is long distance travel and only so long as you are covered by the rail network.
It's a fucking fantasy bro, it's just as bad as people who argue that they "don't need" to own their own things because they happen to exist in a momentary bubble where being a Netflix dependent pod living rentoid is enough, or "don't need" to take control of their tech and stop being dependent on proprietary ecosystems. That's WHY I brought up trucks, because of the old trucker maxim "if you bought it, we brought it." I can't begin to count the abuse I received while trucking from both unthinking normies who think a truck is just a big car AND privileged ecocels who are wilfully blind to the fact that trucks brought them their iPhone. It's effectively the same fallacy as Manicheism where they think picking fruit is a sin so they just have other people pick it for them.
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@druid i do have a drivers license but i don't own a car because i need it so rarely that i can't really justify the expense. I don't tell people they shouldn't own one, also idk what your saying is supposed to mean
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@snacks No, you just moved from the motte to the bailey.
Actually, pacifism is a good analogy. It only keeps your own hands clean. Technologies should not be partisan issues.
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@druid if you really want to i can go through your list and try to refute points but i do get that cars are convenient
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> move christmas tree or desktop pc
Desktop pc i've gotten plenty far by public transport and trailer would be enough, haven't done christmas trees but 4m long bars of lumber
> What about when you need to travel hundreds of miles at a second's notice?
You'll need a boat pretty quickly for that from the uk, won't you? And that also gets into "last minute flight is faster" territory quickly
> Or you need to go somewhere in the middle of the night? Or you need to go somewhere in the middle to a storm?
Oh, you are a little bitch who can't exist outside a climate controlled cage after all, funny how you went on your pagan ramblings just before
> Or when you need to rush someone to hospital? Or when you are injured?
Last time i HAD to get somewhere i was too high to drive and had to call a taxi anyway even tho i had a car available
> Or when you are transporting a pet?
You really assume you can't carry more than a backpack on a bicycle or what? Public transport allows pets too btw
Happy faggot?
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@druid christmas tree store is unironically my neighbour btw
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@druid you are a little bitch whonis afraid of darkness and rain thinking you're a based pagan. I only made these because it seemed like you challenged me to get mad
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@snacks Holy fucking shit you are ABSOLUTELY SEETHING and everything you said here is a nonsensical cope or a highly dependent personal anecdote ("I live next to a Christmas tree store" is the ULTIMATE one though, but "you'd need a boat" is more of a non-sequitur.)
You really straight up called me a "little bitch" over MAKING THE CASE THAT A CAR IS A BETTER WAY TO TRAVEL IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT. Jesus wept.
I'm so disappointed in you. You're being absolutely pathetic.
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@druid and how is the fact that you can carry these moderately sized things with a bicycle "nonsensical cope"?
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@druid READ MY FUCKING WORDS
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@snacks more like why do you think it's acceptable to PUT A PET IN A BACKPACK LMFAO
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@druid yes? Read that again. I literally said you can use more than a backpack on a bicycle. I thought english is your native langauge
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> Or when you are transporting a pet?
You really assume you can't carry more than a backpack on a bicycle or what? Public transport allows pets too btw
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@druid what does that have to do wirh rain and darkness tho? You're just moving the goalpost
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@snacks You do realise that you have permanently destroyed a friendship over nothing but being butthurt, right?
But if you want a real answer to your posturing, I don't know WHAT you think paganism is about. Do you think a disabled person doesn't qualify as a pagan?
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@druid you're the one trying to desrroy a friemdship over turning me into a strawman
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@druid trailers? There's pet cages for rear racks too
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@snacks And I thought you were an intelligent person? Go on then, tell me how to transport a rabbit on a bicycle without bracing it against either your back or (if the bike has room) the rear bar. You think that's meaningfully distinct from putting it in a backpack?
Have you ever actually transported a pet? Have you ever taken an animal to the vet before?
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@druid and yes i have
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@druid because i dare to cycle
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@druid no, they're disqualified by being little bitches afraid of rain and darkness. I live in bumfuck nowhere and have ridden my bicycle through storms at night on country paths to get that fucking bussy.
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@snacks Because your """"argument"""" is that a person can be disqualified from being a TRVE pagan if they aren't sufficiently athletic. Again have you ever actually ridden a bike in the darkness on a country road? It is very difficult, much more so than in daylight. I used to do it to make physical training more challenging, but stopped after I almost got hit by a car - another hazard of night cycling. It's meaningfully distinct from regular cycling for a reason lol
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@druid i've been lifted and deposited multiple meters in the middle of traffic by wind, boohoo
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@druid you're the one who's mad that i cycle. Drive your car all you want
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@snacks I have a bike too you moron LOL I just don't labour under the idiotic delusion that it's a viable option as my only means of personal transport.
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@druid have fun then. You're spoiting such retarded shit that i thought this was all just about your "getting mad is good actually" shit
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@snacks Fuck you, you retarded ape, you literally called me a little bitch and belittled my religious experience. You don't get to gaslight me about whose fault this was.
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@druid and i'm mad that you turn me into a strawman because god knows why. It's just funny to me that you ramble about the beauty of nature and then refuse to go outside because it's dark or raining apparently
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@snacks I'm not mad that you cycle you fucking idiot, I'm mad that you decided to turn on me over basically nothing. As I have repeatedly said, I CYCLE TOO.
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@druid what fantasy? I never said you can do everything by bicycle and kept repeating that until you dropped a list of shit, half of which you can just do on a bicycle and then talked bullshit about pacifism
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@snacks You can't follow a conversation you fucking brain dead child, almost all of your posts have been contradictory nonsense, you collapsed into ad hominem in record time, and almost everything you have said about cycling is pure fantasy. For many years I cycled an average of 24 miles a day, winter included, including in darkness until I realised I was taking unnecessary chances with my life.
WHICH IS WHAT YOU ARE PROUD OF. You're having a Boondocks nigga moment right here. You are literally calling me a pussy because I value my wellbeing. Completely insane.
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@druid you kept arguing against shit i never said, whltf am i supposed to think you want from me?
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@snacks I don't need to turn you into a strawman, you are doing a superb job of being retarded.
BRB going out to provoke a Bengal tiger so that I can be devoured by nature, that will make me a real pagan and a real man!
Do you seriously think you can treat your friends this way and come back from it? That you can throw out vitriol and insults, attack their beliefs and personal qualities, and dismiss anything they say as "rambling"? (EVEN WHEN YOU LIKED AND BOOSTED THE POST YOURSELF LOL)
And it's all - LITERALLY - because I made a fucking joke that wasn't even targeted at you (in fact the phraseology specifically excluded both you and Lucy) and then posted a soyjak. Jesus fucking Christ.
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@druid
> because you conveniently let my pet/vet question slide
once again proving you don't even read what i wrote
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@snacks Absolutely none of what I said can be done on a bicycle and you obviously know it because you conveniently let my pet/vet question slide so you could focus on insulting my religion and masculinity.
We're not friends anymore. Go fuck yourself. I'm going to go and play a board game with my mother now, you can jump around like an ape convincing yourself that you "won" something (instead of "losing" your friend) because I walked away from my computer before you did.
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@druid @snacks can you guys keep fighting please i need entertainment
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