@snacks So what? It doesn't change the fact that you need them, does it? What about when you need to move something like a Christmas tree or a desktop PC, then? What about when you need to travel hundreds of miles at a second's notice? Or you need to go somewhere in the middle of the night? Or you need to go somewhere in the middle to a storm? Or you need to go somewhere outside of the public transportation network? Or when you need to rush someone to hospital? Or when you are injured? Or when you are transporting a pet?

I have done every one of these things multiple times in my life, often multiple times in a WEEK, and every last one of them hard requires a car. The only one that can be whatbouted is long distance travel and only so long as you are covered by the rail network.

It's a fucking fantasy bro, it's just as bad as people who argue that they "don't need" to own their own things because they happen to exist in a momentary bubble where being a Netflix dependent pod living rentoid is enough, or "don't need" to take control of their tech and stop being dependent on proprietary ecosystems. That's WHY I brought up trucks, because of the old trucker maxim "if you bought it, we brought it." I can't begin to count the abuse I received while trucking from both unthinking normies who think a truck is just a big car AND privileged ecocels who are wilfully blind to the fact that trucks brought them their iPhone. It's effectively the same fallacy as Manicheism where they think picking fruit is a sin so they just have other people pick it for them.