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   she hacked you (ekis@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 23-Dec-2024 17:01:12 JST she hacked you

   i would really like it if someone would build a soundcloud/spotify-like abstraction on-top of mastodon, i dream of those companies one day falling to pieces

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 23-Dec-2024 17:03:07 JST Rich Felker

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     @ekis It's in the works. bandwagon.fm.

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     she hacked you (ekis@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 23-Dec-2024 17:03:08 JST she hacked you

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     webtorrent, i dont care if it is centralized, it just would be nice

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     she hacked you (ekis@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 23-Dec-2024 17:03:20 JST she hacked you

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     • Rich Felker

     @dalias yes, thank you

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 23-Dec-2024 17:07:08 JST Rich Felker

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     @ekis This looks particularly promising: https://mastodon.social/@dansup/113689827345681759

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     she hacked you (ekis@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 23-Dec-2024 17:18:58 JST she hacked you

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     • Rich Felker

     @dalias an engineer after my heart

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     she hacked you (ekis@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 23-Dec-2024 17:22:20 JST she hacked you

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     • Rich Felker

     @dalias frontend needs work but good start, where is the source?

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     she hacked you (ekis@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 23-Dec-2024 17:30:52 JST she hacked you

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     Do you realize how much waste goes into just these two companies?

     People should just download it, and those businesses would cease to exist and we would buy just a little more time

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     Gilou (gilou@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 23-Dec-2024 18:45:07 JST Gilou

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     @ekis peertube? It's not that brilliant for sound, but it works, uses AP, and does HLS p2p. Check https://yiny.org

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     she hacked you (ekis@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 23-Dec-2024 19:10:31 JST she hacked you

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     • Rich Felker

     @dalias I don't really know AP well enough, but if it doesn't already provide plays from servers or downloads, that information would be critical in building it

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     she hacked you (ekis@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 23-Dec-2024 19:11:41 JST she hacked you

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     • skribe 🇺🇦 :verified_mustard:
     • mike805

     @mike805 @skribe Just track the plays across all the instances, and the downloads

     Then juse that to build a player that allows people to download

     if people like it enough they will do fine

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     mike805 (mike805@noc.social)'s status on Monday, 23-Dec-2024 19:11:42 JST mike805

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     • skribe 🇺🇦 :verified_mustard:

     @skribe @ekis What would spotify on top of Mastodon look like? Are we reviving Napster here?

     Some of us never stopped keeping our own music files. So a better file sharing system sounds interesting.

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     skribe 🇺🇦 :verified_mustard: (skribe@aus.social)'s status on Monday, 23-Dec-2024 19:11:43 JST skribe 🇺🇦 :verified_mustard:

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     @ekis it's the industry. They're just working within the limitations that were established a 100+ years ago.

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     she hacked you (ekis@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 23-Dec-2024 19:14:10 JST she hacked you

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     • skribe 🇺🇦 :verified_mustard:
     • mike805

     @mike805 @skribe Many artists have said this already

     But there is basically like a music cartel, and they mostly get the money anyone is paying into Spotify or Soundcloud

     Music should be free, your culture should not be directly related to your class, or material wealth or whatever people want to call it

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     she hacked you (ekis@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 23-Dec-2024 19:31:11 JST she hacked you

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     • skribe 🇺🇦 :verified_mustard:
     • mike805

     @skribe @mike805 streaming is popular because copyright laws create a system in which these companies can maintain an essential monopoly on your ability to play the song

     All this pretense to what end?

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     mike805 (mike805@noc.social)'s status on Monday, 23-Dec-2024 19:31:12 JST mike805

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     • skribe 🇺🇦 :verified_mustard:

     @ekis @skribe I remember the utopian articles from the mp3.com days. How evil the record labels were and how wonderful things would be once they were dead.

     Now artists miss the old days of merely being ripped off by record labels.

     A lot of people have proposed utopian schemes to get musicians paid, by counting plays and paying out from some fund. Nobody has figured out how people discover new music in such a system.

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     skribe 🇺🇦 :verified_mustard: (skribe@aus.social)'s status on Monday, 23-Dec-2024 19:31:12 JST skribe 🇺🇦 :verified_mustard:

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     • mike805

     @mike805 @ekis people love art, they just believe it's too expensive. That's why streaming (music/video/games) is so popular.

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     she hacked you (ekis@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 23-Dec-2024 19:38:20 JST she hacked you

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     • mike805

     @skribe @mike805 Their business model is many things but one includes down sampling the audio so people are encouraged to use their proprietary "mastering" so it sounds good after being down sampled

     They have all sorts of ways to literally highlight it after uploading; incredibly predatory