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   Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 21-Dec-2024 11:29:33 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

   there HAS to be something wrong with my firefox install.
   I know Google has put a lot of time and money into making chrome fast but firefox can't be this far behind.

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     je comprends rien (usuario@instancia.org)'s status on Saturday, 21-Dec-2024 11:29:29 JST je comprends rien

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     @foone I agree but they’re reverting the trend in the latest models

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     Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 21-Dec-2024 11:29:30 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

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     when I can I'll have to carry this thing up to an ethernet port and plug it in there.

     wait, fuck, this laptop doesn't even have ethernet! IT IS CLEARLY BROKEN

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     Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 21-Dec-2024 11:29:30 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

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     number of ports on laptops peaked in the early 2000s and it has been a slow downhill slide since then.

     I'm still waiting for Apple (and it will be Apple, mark my words) to release a laptop with zero ports.

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     Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 21-Dec-2024 11:29:31 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

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     speedtests are fine, but my latency is ridiculous. like I'll click a link on a search and it'll take 5 seconds to start showing the new page

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     Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 21-Dec-2024 11:29:32 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

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     my network engineer roommate suggested it might be the secure DNS. Sure enough, firefox was configured to send all my DNS requests over HTTPS to Transphobia Central, so that was probably slowing it down a tad.

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     Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 21-Dec-2024 11:29:32 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

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     That helped, I think? but it's still slow. There is probably something fucky going on with my network but since this is my laptop I don't have the tools to diagnose it further.

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     je comprends rien (usuario@instancia.org)'s status on Saturday, 21-Dec-2024 12:01:06 JST je comprends rien

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     @foone welcome to my life 😭

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     Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 21-Dec-2024 12:01:07 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

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     And I fully closed Firefox but task manager is showing 12 instances of firefox.exe.
     What the fuck?

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     Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 21-Dec-2024 12:01:08 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

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     Okay yeah a fresh profile loads that page in about 0.5 to 1.5 seconds.

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     Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 21-Dec-2024 12:01:09 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

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     so my throughput is fine, but something is wrong with page loading. I'm gonna try going to a fresh profile with no extensions and see if it vanishes

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     Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 21-Dec-2024 12:01:10 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

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     so I google "there is no antimemetics division" and when the results are up, I click the goodreads link.
     NINE SECONDS LATER it shows up.
     I hit back, which should take me back to my cached search results, right?

     three seconds later, it shows up.

     Something is deeply fucked here. I have been on faster 56k connections.

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     Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 21-Dec-2024 12:01:10 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

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     but like, I downloaded some ISOs this morning, they finished in like 10-20 seconds

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     Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 21-Dec-2024 12:01:11 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

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     it's funny how Neal Stephenson's "In the Beginning... Was the Command Line" he talked about how if Apple made cars they'd have sealed hoods. He said that in 1999, before Apple started selling phones they literally glued together

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     Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 21-Dec-2024 12:09:51 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

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     yeah I think Cl*udfl*re has something to do with this. Today and yesterday I've hit sites that do the "just a moment while we verify you're human" interstitial with the checkbox, but when I click it, it spins for 5 seconds, and then reloads the page to the same "verify you're human" page. I can do it repeatedly and get nowhere

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     Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 21-Dec-2024 12:09:52 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

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     the problem with IT people is that the more they know, the less they think the ritualistic repair steps are needed, because they think they know how computers work.

     Wrong! Computers are and have always been black magic. If it doesn't work, turn it off and back on again, and see if that fixes it!

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     Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 21-Dec-2024 12:09:53 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

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     Eh, this is windows, not a real OS. I should probably reboot just to be safe.

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     Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 21-Dec-2024 12:09:53 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

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     it has magically fixed itself.

     I GUESS!?

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     dean (dean@urusai.social)'s status on Saturday, 21-Dec-2024 12:10:34 JST dean

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     @foone there's a privacy setting I used to enable which cpu-renders canvas elements to prevent fingerprinting. it hurt my performance really hard, as well as being the primary thing that started tripping captchas for me. so could be related to hardware acceleration / privacy settings.

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 21-Dec-2024 12:10:51 JST Rich Felker

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     @dean @foone Which setting is it? I want!

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 21-Dec-2024 12:22:54 JST Rich Felker

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     @dean @foone My vaporware browser will always render canvas low res on cpu, but parallel render high quality display, using gpu if available, that can't be read back by js.

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     dean (dean@urusai.social)'s status on Saturday, 21-Dec-2024 12:22:55 JST dean

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     • Rich Felker

     @dalias @foone I think in vanilla Firefox the only way is to entirely disable hardware acceleration. I forget which fork it was since I was experimenting with a bunch of different privacy-centric forks, unfortunately :/

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 21-Dec-2024 13:02:38 JST Rich Felker

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     • xyhhx 🔻 (plz hire me)

     @xyhhx @dean @foone The right behavior is rendering screen with GPU but not reading Canvas, metrics, etc. back from there. Instead storing sequence of rendering ops and re-rendering with CPU if there's a readback operation.

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     xyhhx 🔻 (plz hire me) (xyhhx@nso.group)'s status on Saturday, 21-Dec-2024 13:02:39 JST xyhhx 🔻 (plz hire me)

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     • dean

     @dalias @dean @foone you could probably use bubblewrap, flatseal¹, etc to block off gpu if you were so inclined

     ¹ i know theyre the same

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     xyhhx 🔻 (plz hire me) (xyhhx@nso.group)'s status on Saturday, 21-Dec-2024 13:02:40 JST xyhhx 🔻 (plz hire me)

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     • dean

     @dalias @dean @foone ive only ever heard of the resistFingerprinting config setting, but that just fucks up webgl entirely

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 21-Dec-2024 13:29:01 JST Rich Felker

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     • xyhhx 🔻 (plz hire me)

     @xyhhx @dean @foone Rendering what you see fast with GPU, but upon any readback attempt, lazily re-rendering with CPU. Same idea as accurate PSX emulators that do high res display.

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     xyhhx 🔻 (plz hire me) (xyhhx@nso.group)'s status on Saturday, 21-Dec-2024 13:29:02 JST xyhhx 🔻 (plz hire me)

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     • dean

     @dalias im not sure i follow

     @dean @foone

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 21-Dec-2024 13:44:41 JST Rich Felker

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     • xyhhx 🔻 (plz hire me)

     @xyhhx @dean @foone There's a single deterministic computation producing the data to read back independent of what hardware you're running on.

     In principle you should be able to make GPU rendering deterministic/bit-exact, but there are so many layers for stuff to go wrong at and in practice it's always fingerprinting.

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     xyhhx 🔻 (plz hire me) (xyhhx@nso.group)'s status on Saturday, 21-Dec-2024 13:44:42 JST xyhhx 🔻 (plz hire me)

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     • dean

     @dalias interesting.. sorry if im asking the obvious, but whats the benefit wrt fingerprint protection?

     @dean @foone