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夜化 (yoruka@eientei.org)'s status on Thursday, 19-Dec-2024 02:53:08 JST 
夜化
@GrumpyRabbit @jeffcliff -
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 19-Dec-2024 02:53:07 JST 
Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
@Yoruka @GrumpyRabbit how many times is this stupid meme going to go around?
first of all, most of these people are media talking heads who were dumbing down what doctors were saying for the broader audience
second of all the vaccine *did* provide immunity until the variants evolved around it
third of all grumpyrabbit is a fucking idiot who purposefully shares misleading information because his audience is dumb enough to buy it
fourth : the covid vaccines have saved tens of millions of lives at this point, and we are on about 7 levels of you covidiots allowing covid to evolve past it requiring updated boosters to cover the difference -
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 19-Dec-2024 02:54:28 JST
Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
@graf @GrumpyRabbit yeah lifelabs is disgusting and should be shut down -
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anime graf mays ?️? (graf@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 19-Dec-2024 02:54:29 JST 
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@jeffcliff @GrumpyRabbit Jeff I'm at lifelabs getting routine bloodwork done, the room is half the size it used to be and it's standing room only. Nobody wearing masks. Just everyone living in the moment -
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 19-Dec-2024 04:36:11 JST
Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
@Yoruka @skylar @GrumpyRabbit
Dead wrong. The worst death rate of the whole pandemic here was only like 3-4 weeks ago. And the rate of death is more or less totally uncorrelated with the flu -
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夜化 (yoruka@eientei.org)'s status on Thursday, 19-Dec-2024 04:36:13 JST
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@skylar @jeffcliff @GrumpyRabbit the only people dying from it now are people that would otherwise die from the flu too anyway -
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skylar :confederateflag:??? :z: (skylar@misskey.yandere.love)'s status on Thursday, 19-Dec-2024 04:36:14 JST 
skylar :confederateflag:??? :z:
@Yoruka @jeffcliff @GrumpyRabbit next someone will say they never got covid despite not getting vaxxed and never following anyone's gay little rules, jeff will respond BUT HOW DO YOU KNOW IF YOU WEREN'T TESTING ALL THE TIME, and i'll say waow a disease so dangerous you need a test to know if you have it -
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夜化 (yoruka@eientei.org)'s status on Thursday, 19-Dec-2024 04:36:15 JST
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@skylar @jeffcliff @GrumpyRabbit IDK what he's yapping I've seen people get corona after the vaccine, I've seen people get very sick after vaccine I've seen people die after vaccine. damn wouldn't you almost think it had no effect?? nahhhwww!!! No waaaaayyyy!!! -
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skylar :confederateflag:??? :z: (skylar@misskey.yandere.love)'s status on Thursday, 19-Dec-2024 04:36:16 JST
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@jeffcliff @Yoruka @GrumpyRabbit it's so over for you vaccine enjoyers
the only people left who trust big pharma and your so called public health experts are the extremely politics brained liberals who spend hours a day consooming liberal media
vaccination rates across the board have been falling off as people start considering the risks and benefits of each instead of accepting everything the pharma sales rep told their doctor at a fancy dinner as gospel
and you only have yourself to blame, for going apeshit over mandates with an obviously rushed and poorly tested vaccine during the chinese cringe aids -
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 19-Dec-2024 04:37:49 JST
Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
@Yoruka @skylar @GrumpyRabbit
> I've seen people get very sick after vaccine
No shit. We are now *years* into vaccine escape.
> I've seen people die after vaccine.
No shit. Covid is not something to fuck around with.
> damn wouldn't you almost think it had no effect??
No effect? No. It has saved millions of lives. But getting vaccinated in 2021 against a variant from 2020 doesn't help much against the late 2024 variants . THATS WHY BOOSTERS EXIST -
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anime graf mays ?️? (graf@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 19-Dec-2024 04:38:01 JST
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@jeffcliff @GrumpyRabbit No Indians here though. Just white people and a Russian couple -
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anime graf mays ?️? (graf@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 19-Dec-2024 04:38:15 JST
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@jeffcliff @GrumpyRabbit I just showed the girl taking my blood this post and she laughed -
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 19-Dec-2024 04:41:41 JST
Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
@SmidgePierce @GrumpyRabbit Go shove a razorblade into your eye bugchaser -
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SmidgePierce (smidgepierce@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 19-Dec-2024 04:41:42 JST 
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@jeffcliff @GrumpyRabbit Lmao. Look at this absolute faggot 🤗 -
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 19-Dec-2024 04:48:01 JST
Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
@Yoruka @GrumpyRabbit @skylar also relevant for *both* flu and covid: https://www.threads.net/@dr.andrealove/post/DDuxUwMPtsp -
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 19-Dec-2024 05:13:44 JST
Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
@Kagekokoro @Yoruka @skylar @GrumpyRabbit > Enjoy your covaids
you're the ones chasing covid AIDS bugchaser -
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Kagekokoro (kagekokoro@varishangout.net)'s status on Thursday, 19-Dec-2024 05:13:45 JST 
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@jeffcliff @Yoruka @skylar @GrumpyRabbit
Imagine being this delusional
Enjoy your covaids -
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 21-Dec-2024 05:40:18 JST
Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
@GrumpyRabbit @Yoruka @skylar The risk-benefit ratio isn't 'distorted' any more than any other vaccine -- it protects people starting from virtually 100% protection (from the variant they target) with a dropping efficiacy as it mutates around it thanks to you covidiots providing many hosts for it to do so in. The problem is YOU fuckhead -
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GrumpyRabbit (grumpyrabbit@social.teci.world)'s status on Saturday, 21-Dec-2024 05:40:19 JST 
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@jeffcliff @Yoruka @skylar But they claimed absolute effectiveness--probably to help make their distorted risk-benefit ratios appear to be valid. That's the problem. -
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 21-Dec-2024 05:42:48 JST
Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
@GrumpyRabbit @Yoruka No.
> Not according to Pfizer's own internal documents, that they and the FDA tried to hide, but which a court ordered released.
1) Pfizer isn't the only company making such vaccines
2) pfizer doesn't have some kind of secret data that somehow makes the public findings / outcome of phase III trials not real. The pfizer data supports the use of vaccines as they protect people from infection, transmission, severity of disease and death. -
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GrumpyRabbit (grumpyrabbit@social.teci.world)'s status on Saturday, 21-Dec-2024 05:42:50 JST
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@jeffcliff @Yoruka "second of all the vaccine *did* provide immunity until the variants evolved around it"
Not according to Pfizer's own internal documents, that they and the FDA tried to hide, but which a court ordered released. -
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 21-Dec-2024 05:48:50 JST
Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
@GrumpyRabbit @Yoruka And that's the last I'm going to waste time on you - you're going on mute. -
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 21-Dec-2024 05:52:20 JST
Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
@Yoruka @GrumpyRabbit :KysRope: -
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夜化 (yoruka@eientei.org)'s status on Saturday, 21-Dec-2024 05:52:21 JST
夜化
@jeffcliff @GrumpyRabbit nigger lmao -
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 22-Dec-2024 08:11:46 JST
Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
@Yoruka @GrumpyRabbit
Sink water?? This is just ignorance. Do they do this with other vaccines? Is the varicella vaccine just saline? How about gardasil?? Do doctors put chalk and sawdust and huck them as beta blockers?? Is the entirety of modern medicine just utterly faked?? -
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夜化 (yoruka@eientei.org)'s status on Sunday, 22-Dec-2024 08:11:48 JST
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@GrumpyRabbit @jeffcliff the vaccine was probably sink water and placebo -
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GrumpyRabbit (grumpyrabbit@social.teci.world)'s status on Sunday, 22-Dec-2024 08:11:49 JST
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@jeffcliff @Yoruka "pfizer doesn't have some kind of secret data that somehow makes the public findings / outcomes of phase III trials not real."
Actually, YES IT DOES. Studies can be--and are--faked quite regularly. It would have been easier to have simply admitted that you didn't even bother to look up the data that the Federal court forced them to release. But you don't have the intellectual integrity to do that.
"Pfizer isn't the only company making such vaccines"
True, but irrelevant: The flaw is in the mRNA technology itself, regardless of the manufacturer. And also in the nature of rhinoviruses in general, and of coronaviruses in particular: THERE ARE NO VACCINES OF ANY TYPE THAT CAN PROVIDE THE GENERAL PUBLIC WITH PROTECTION AGAINST SUCH VIRAL EPIDEMICS, even if some individuals get some benefit.
Two reasons: Firstly, rhinoviruses mutate too quickly, and have antigenic mutability that is just far too high. This, all by itself, proves that the claims that the vaccine mandates were necessary for public safety to be KNOWING, WILLFUL LIES.
Secondly, mRNA vaccines are NOT sterilizing vaccines. A "sterilizing" vaccine is one that provides sterilizing immunity, which means it can prevent a pathogen from establishing an infection in the body entirely. Here are the key aspects of sterilizing vaccines:
1) Complete prevention: A sterilizing vaccine aims to eliminate a pathogen before it can replicate in the host
2) Antibody-mediated: Antibodies are the primary mediators of sterilizing immunity, though T cells may also contribute
3) Rapid response: The immune system neutralizes the pathogen quickly, ideally at the site of entry
4) Transmission prevention: By preventing infection, sterilizing immunity also stops the spread of the pathogen to new hosts
mRNA vaccines against COVID-19 do not provide sterilizing immunity:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41423-022-00855-4
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9595357/
There are several reasons for that--including pointed mentioned above--but the most important reason is because mRNA "vaccines" [sic] only present a single viral protein to the immune system, and NOT the virus itself. The immune system may use any and all aspects of a virus to create its response to a viral infection, not just a single protein.
A key dishonesty of the pro-mandate hoax was the failure to distinguish between the ability to reduce the severity of symptoms versus the ability to actually prevent the epidemic spread of the infection. Only sterilizing vaccines have any realistic hope of accomplishing the latter.
To say nothing of "herd immunity."
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