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    tante (tante@tldr.nettime.org)'s status on Thursday, 19-Dec-2024 01:20:22 JST tante tante

    Things are not "enshittified". It's capitalism. Those things go together, it's not a "broken form" of capitalism or something. Same with "rot economy" and whatnot.

    I get that one likes to coin new terms but more and more I feel like those terms are actively making analysis and insight harder: They cloud more than they explain.

    In conversation about 7 months ago from tldr.nettime.org permalink
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      hagen terschüren (hagen@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 19-Dec-2024 01:30:43 JST hagen terschüren hagen terschüren
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      @tante to be fair »enshittification« has been completely broken as a term anyways because people never read doctorow’s definition and just used a word that sounds fun for literally everything.

      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink
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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Thursday, 19-Dec-2024 01:48:13 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      • hagen terschüren
      • ErosBlog Bacchus

      @ErosBlog @hagen @tante

      'The only way to maintain a precise, theoretically grounded use of a term is to confine its usage to a small group of largely irrelevant insiders.'

      https://pluralistic.net/2024/10/14/pearl-clutching/#this-toilet-has-no-central-nervous-system

      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink

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      ErosBlog Bacchus (erosblog@kinkyelephant.com)'s status on Thursday, 19-Dec-2024 01:48:19 JST ErosBlog Bacchus ErosBlog Bacchus
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      • Cory Doctorow
      • hagen terschüren

      @hagen @tante It's pretty normal for a word to have a narrow technical meaning and a much broader popular usage that is gleefully adopted by people who do not know or never understood the narrow technical sense of the word.

      #Enshittification @pluralistic

      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink
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      j@mastodon (jcast@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 19-Dec-2024 05:12:07 JST j@mastodon j@mastodon
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      @tante

      Sure it's capitalism. But if you keep saying that for every aspect or symptom that comes up, the word will lose it's meaning and potency, as it has.

      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink
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      alcinnz (alcinnz@floss.social)'s status on Thursday, 19-Dec-2024 06:23:25 JST alcinnz alcinnz
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      • Cory Doctorow
      • hagen terschüren
      • ErosBlog Bacchus

      @ErosBlog @hagen @tante @pluralistic Though I will remark the reverse also happens, perhaps especially when it comes to compsci jargon! Like "algorithm".

      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink

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