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   screwlisp (screwtape@mastodon.sdf.org)'s status on Friday, 13-Dec-2024 06:02:33 JST screwlisp

   • Alfred M. Szmidt

   @amszmidt I always feel bashful about saying function, which I traditionally use to mean the mathematics thing. I will change team based on this poll though.

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     Alfred M. Szmidt (amszmidt@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 13-Dec-2024 06:25:41 JST Alfred M. Szmidt

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     @screwtape I am afraid that this poll cause quantum damage socieity.

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     screwlisp (screwtape@mastodon.sdf.org)'s status on Friday, 13-Dec-2024 06:26:43 JST screwlisp

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     • Alfred M. Szmidt

     @amszmidt I like to live dangerously

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     Karsten Johansson (ksaj@infosec.exchange)'s status on Friday, 13-Dec-2024 15:00:12 JST Karsten Johansson

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     • Alfred M. Szmidt

     @screwtape @amszmidt One of my best friends is a mathematician. He is not a coder. But he is tickled pink when I show him Lisp because he can so easily relate it back to mathematics.

     He first brought that up when I was talking about lisp and mentioned functions. He did that "Well yea, but..." intro all people of differing expertise do, but when I demonstrated how functions work in Lisp, he's really gotten to like the language (even though he has no intention of learning to code).

     Functional coding and functional math are not the same thing, but there is a clear familiarity between them.

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     screwlisp (screwtape@mastodon.sdf.org)'s status on Friday, 13-Dec-2024 15:24:19 JST screwlisp

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     • hajovonta

     @hajovonta Yeah https://ksaj.sdf.org/@ksaj@infosec.exchange @amszmidt

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     hajovonta (hajovonta@mastodon.online)'s status on Friday, 13-Dec-2024 15:24:20 JST hajovonta

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     • Alfred M. Szmidt

     @ksaj

     it looks like you have the gift of inspiring others. You should maybe try writing a tutorial, or introduction. Or try recording a series of video introductions. Ever thought of that?

     @screwtape @amszmidt

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     Karsten Johansson (ksaj@infosec.exchange)'s status on Friday, 13-Dec-2024 16:13:22 JST Karsten Johansson

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     • hajovonta

     @screwtape @hajovonta @amszmidt Wo0t!

     Thanks for posting my link. :)

     The reason I don't do a tutorial is because there are a gazillion unfinished LISP "tutorials" out there. It's really annoying how some people who start learinng Lisp need to write a "book" as if they're a pro, while they're learning, but then deek out the moment they realize it is actual work and they are over their heads. The Internet is flooded with this rubbish, and I'd rather not bury myself in it or heap it upon others.

     There is even one I keep seeing well-meaning Lisp people promote when someone asks to learn. All they need to do is look through the chapters, and they'll realize it gets about as far as "hello world" and then drops off with only empty spaces for chapters. The TOC sounds awesome, and the guy pretends it is a "second edition" as if it was finished once before, but there is no content in that supposed "book"! At all!

     That drives me nuts even more, because these people should know better than to promote learning material they've never read themselves... otherwise they'd never recommend it. And it is a constant.

     I'm not setting myself up to be that.

     (Sorry if I sound pissy. I'm really not.. This IS my pet peeve, as everyone who knows me will tell you.)

     But I am always uploading my weird Lisp code bits that do things in surprising ways. Sometimes I upload them here as "challenges" because I delight in the weirdness of doing weird things in such a weird language, lol.

     But you will get a taste for my absurd tastes in Lisp programming from the link that Screwtape posted up there.

     For the record, I used to teach pentesting at IBM. Back then things weren't so automated, so some of the things I taught, I used Lisp to demonstrate lol. Much easier to read than the C exploits, even if you hate parens!