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    Adam Shostack :donor: :rebelverified: (adamshostack@infosec.exchange)'s status on Friday, 13-Dec-2024 04:19:48 JST Adam Shostack :donor: :rebelverified: Adam Shostack :donor: :rebelverified:

    Is there any meaningful security benefit to one time codes being more than 4-6 digits?

    (For any of TOTP, email, or sms delivery.)

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      Ryan Castellucci :nonbinary_flag: (ryanc@infosec.exchange)'s status on Friday, 13-Dec-2024 04:19:47 JST Ryan Castellucci :nonbinary_flag: Ryan Castellucci :nonbinary_flag:
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      @adamshostack they make people feel more secure

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      Adam Shostack :donor: :rebelverified: (adamshostack@infosec.exchange)'s status on Friday, 13-Dec-2024 04:21:00 JST Adam Shostack :donor: :rebelverified: Adam Shostack :donor: :rebelverified:
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      @ryanc I don't mean to be snarky, but, really? Is this a studied thing?

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      Ryan Castellucci :nonbinary_flag: (ryanc@infosec.exchange)'s status on Friday, 13-Dec-2024 05:11:08 JST Ryan Castellucci :nonbinary_flag: Ryan Castellucci :nonbinary_flag:
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      @adamshostack I'm not aware of any such study. I was being a bit flippant, honestly it's probably more about how the people making decisions about implementing them feel.

      Longer ones make issues related to rate limits and race conditions less relevant.

      My bank uses eight alphanumeric characters for logging into online banking and making transfers, but six digits for online debit card transactions.

      This doesn't seem coherent to me, but I really don't want to think too much about their backend.

      You might look for papers which cite this: https://dl.acm.org/doi/abs/10.1145/3473040

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        On the Security of Smartphone Unlock PINs | ACM Transactions on Privacy and Security
        from AvivAdam J.
        In this article, we provide the first comprehensive study of user-chosen four- and six-digit PINs (n=1705) collected on smartphones with participants being explicitly primed for device unlocking. We find that against a throttled attacker (with 10, 30, ...
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      Adam Shostack :donor: :rebelverified: (adamshostack@infosec.exchange)'s status on Friday, 13-Dec-2024 06:11:03 JST Adam Shostack :donor: :rebelverified: Adam Shostack :donor: :rebelverified:
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      • Ryan Castellucci :nonbinary_flag:

      @ryanc Well that’ll teach me to take you seriously! 😂

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      Ryan Castellucci :nonbinary_flag: (ryanc@infosec.exchange)'s status on Friday, 13-Dec-2024 06:19:16 JST Ryan Castellucci :nonbinary_flag: Ryan Castellucci :nonbinary_flag:
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      @adamshostack I make a point of deadpan delivery of unserious content in order to establish a pattern that provides plausible deniability.

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      Adam Shostack :donor: :rebelverified: (adamshostack@infosec.exchange)'s status on Friday, 13-Dec-2024 06:20:17 JST Adam Shostack :donor: :rebelverified: Adam Shostack :donor: :rebelverified:
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      @ryanc Surely…

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