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   Tor Lillqvist (tml@urbanists.social)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Dec-2024 22:07:43 JST Tor Lillqvist

   Harvoin tulee käveltyä rullaustietä pitkin.

   Onkohan täällä Berliinissäkin ikuinen Pelasta Tempelhof -kansanliike, ja joka vaalit on Tempelhof-vaalit?

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     vegos_f06 (vegos_f06@friendica.opensocial.space)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Dec-2024 22:07:40 JST vegos_f06

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     @paavi @tml In Berlin, building does not mean affordable homes for all. It means investment. So the administration - especially the actual one - sees the chance of big "development" and they tell they want to build "only" on the peripheral areas of the Field to get their foot in the door for a complete development. They also want to overturn the law against development which was passed after a referendum in 2014. This is all being done under the pretext of doing something about the housing shortage in Berlin.
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     [ʏlønen] (paavi@mastodontti.fi)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Dec-2024 22:07:41 JST [ʏlønen]

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     @tml Mun ymmärtääkseni konsensus on pitkään ollut, ettei sinne haluta mitään lentokoneita enää ikinä, ja että se jätetään puistoalueeksi, jolle ei kaavoiteta rakennuksia.

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     vegos_f06 (vegos_f06@friendica.opensocial.space)'s status on Thursday, 12-Dec-2024 00:37:58 JST vegos_f06

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     • 100% Tempelhofer Feld e.V.
     @tml The referendum with 64,3% against development was a clear will of the citizens from all districts of Berlin. So the law against development was passed. But since then, nearly every Senate including the CDU or SPD tried to overturn this law. There is a big lobby of investment and building companies. The Berlin real estate industry is also said to be one of the world biggest money laundering machines. Some reputable papers wrote about it. But most political parties yell: Bauen, bauen, bauen! Don't compare Helsinki with Berlin. We have many sealed or derelict areas where social housing could be built, if this were the aim of the Senate's policy at all. The Tempelhofer Field has a high value for the urban climate and for recreation of the local population. Some are even coming from other districts to enjoy it. At least those who pushed for the referendum still organize against the capitalist exploitation of the Field: @thf100
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     Tor Lillqvist (tml@urbanists.social)'s status on Thursday, 12-Dec-2024 00:37:59 JST Tor Lillqvist

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     • vegos_f06

     @vegos_f06 Also, if one compares to the former Malmi airport in Helsinki, which was what I hinted at, there it is a small fringe of aviation enthusiasts (with support from the far right, because they oppose anything) that want to keep it as an airport. Otherwise there is a consensus that it should be developed into housing (which in Helsinki in newly developed areas always includes social housing).