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   Nik 🍉 (nelsonakis@mastodon.online)'s status on Thursday, 21-Nov-2024 23:11:41 JST Nik 🍉

   • Eugen Rochko
   • Elia Ayoub (he/him)

   The moderators of mastodon social continue to silence pro-Palestinian accounts, this time @ayoub

   Mastodon doesn't feel like the effective and reliable communications platform you proclaimed a few days ago, @Gargron

   #Palestine #Mastodon

   • Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br) repeated this.
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     Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 01:08:31 JST Eugen Rochko

     in reply to

     • かき@GNUsocialJP

     @nelsonakis If you check our explore page you will see that a lot of pro-Palestinian accounts appear there regularly. We may however moderate accounts that share misinformation or use antisemitic tropes such as Holocaust inversion.

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     hcv13 🇵🇸 (hcv13@mastodon.la)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 03:07:28 JST hcv13 🇵🇸

     in reply to

     • Eugen Rochko
     • boss
     • Elia Ayoub (he/him)

     Good morning or evening @Gargron
     In response to @nelsonakis you express that “ We may however moderate accounts that share misinformation or use antisemitic tropes such as Holocaust inversion.”

     By not providing proof of such “misinformation” or “tropes such as Holocaust inversion”, you cast more shadows than light on the matter in question and the feeling remains that moderation is done from a biased perspective and contrary to the freedom of speech that is so much defended in this type of platforms.

     Moreover, if in this type of digital spaces it is not possible to expicite the atrocities that the Israeli government headed by Netanyahu commits daily against the Palestinian people, in that case, the contradiction between discourse and practice becomes more than pathetic.

     Can you provide reliable proof that the silenced or hidden account of the public line incurred in what you express in your answer?

     I support the above question in two aspects: a) in the reasoning of @nelsonakis “the reasoning behind such a decision, maybe even with the user's post(s) that triggered it.” and the principle of Onus probandi.

     @boss

     @ayoub

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     boss (boss@xarxamontgri.masto.host)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 03:07:29 JST boss

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     • Eugen Rochko
     • Elia Ayoub (he/him)

     @nelsonakis @ayoub @Gargron
     The Fediverse, not only Mastodon, is a effective and reliable communications platform, as far as you own your own instance. Or you belong to a nice and good vibes instance. I would leave mastodon social.

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     Johns (johns_priv@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 03:53:25 JST Johns

     in reply to

     • Eugen Rochko
     • Elia Ayoub (he/him)

     @nelsonakis @ayoub @Gargron Is there any way to notify it as a ' false positive', like we would do with a mail marked as spam that isn't so?

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     Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 03:53:25 JST Eugen Rochko

     in reply to

     • かき@GNUsocialJP
     • Johns

     @Johns_priv @nelsonakis If you follow the account it works normally.

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     Ben Royce 🇺🇦 (benroyce@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 23-Nov-2024 04:20:03 JST Ben Royce 🇺🇦

     in reply to

     • Eugen Rochko
     • Elia Ayoub (he/him)

     @Gargron @nelsonakis @ayoub

     thanks for addressing the issue Eugen

     i understand the reasoning for opaque mod decisions

     but when there is a large outcry it's prudent to identify the exact violation publicly

     at the very least so others may avoid the snag on contentious topics

     i recall a similar situation earlier this year where you spoke to the specifics of why a popular account was hidden

     maybe new policy exists since then

     so i ask mastodon.social mods:

     allow Eugen to relay the specifics

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     Ed (edcates@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 05-Dec-2024 06:32:39 JST Ed

     in reply to

     • Eugen Rochko

     @Gargron @nelsonakis This is some weak-ass, Zionist bullshit.

     If you want this platform to grow, you need to be better than this garbage response.