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   Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Thursday, 21-Nov-2024 20:40:40 JST Aral Balkan

   Hey web devs, not breaking links doesn’t have to be hard…

   Heard of the 404 → 307 technique? (Well, now you have!)

   https://4042307.org/

   🌲

   #evergreenWeb #web #dev

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     Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Thursday, 21-Nov-2024 20:42:57 JST Aral Balkan

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     PS. Did I mention Kitten has built-in support for evergreen web?

     https://kitten.small-web.org/reference/#evergreen-web-404-307

     #everygreenWeb #Kitten #SmallWeb #web #dev

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     Mx. Eddie R (silvermoon82@wandering.shop)'s status on Thursday, 21-Nov-2024 21:23:02 JST Mx. Eddie R

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     @aral
     So the idea is to presrve the entire website on a deprecated/historical subdomain, then redirect progressively back in time until a hit or a 404-for-the-ages?
     And the redirect means relative links will already be on the 2017 subdomajn so won't be masked by newer resources.
     That is pretty slick!

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     Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Thursday, 21-Nov-2024 22:24:38 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Jorge Sanz

     @jorgesanz @ErikUden Nice, I should add that to the docs :)

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     Jorge Sanz (jorgesanz@mapstodon.space)'s status on Thursday, 21-Nov-2024 22:24:39 JST Jorge Sanz

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     • Erik Uden 🍑

     @ErikUden @aral

     maybe this helps? running curl against the me.html example shows clearly the proposed flow

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     Erik Uden 🍑 (erikuden@mastodon.de)'s status on Thursday, 21-Nov-2024 22:24:41 JST Erik Uden 🍑

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     @aral I don't get it

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     Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Thursday, 21-Nov-2024 22:25:13 JST Aral Balkan

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     • chrysn

     @chrysn Not sure, first time I’m hearing of it. Will look it up :)

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     chrysn (chrysn@chaos.social)'s status on Thursday, 21-Nov-2024 22:25:15 JST chrysn

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     @aral Are Mementos (RFC7089) still a thing? Sounds a bit like the same thing but being more explicit about what happens.

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     Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Thursday, 21-Nov-2024 22:27:04 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Mx. Eddie R

     @silvermoon82 Glad you like it. Do let me know if you end up implementing it somewhere.

     Maybe we can have a little list of sites that do…

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     Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Thursday, 21-Nov-2024 22:28:15 JST Aral Balkan

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     • dandandin

     @dandandin Basically, if a path is not found on the latest server, it redirects to the same path on the previous server.

     Does this help clarify it: https://mapstodon.space/@jorgesanz/113520807453587002

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     dandandin (dandandin@mastodon.uno)'s status on Thursday, 21-Nov-2024 22:28:16 JST dandandin

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     @aral i'm not really understanding how it works. I'm in the process of migrating wordpress with 15 years of posts to hugo and this stuff might be immensely useful

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     Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Thursday, 21-Nov-2024 22:30:55 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Anselm Schüler

     @anselmschueler Thanks! Do let me know if you end up using it somewhere :)

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     Anselm Schüler (anselmschueler@ieji.de)'s status on Thursday, 21-Nov-2024 22:30:56 JST Anselm Schüler

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     @aral ooh that's cool

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     Angie Taylor (angietaylor@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 21-Nov-2024 22:31:28 JST Angie Taylor

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     @aral Do you have any good resources or guides on how a non-web-savvy designer can make their website better in terms of small tech, privacy etc?

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     Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Thursday, 21-Nov-2024 22:31:28 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Angie Taylor

     @angietaylor Not a comprehensive one but there was this mini site I wrote up back when Google announced FLoC that still has some general guidelines (nothing that should come as a revelation, really).

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     JeffersonBledsoe (jeffersonbledsoe@fosstodon.org)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 03:19:17 JST JeffersonBledsoe

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     @aral Really like this approach to preserving links! Would there anyway to do this without still running the old site, e.g. DNS + wayback machine?

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     Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 03:19:17 JST Aral Balkan

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     • JeffersonBledsoe

     @JeffersonBledsoe You could just rewrite the links to Wayback Machine, I guess. But it doesn’t store things exactly as they were always. That said, you could also try a static export of some sort and map to that. You could have that on the same machine. That’s what I do on ar.al with a static export of my Wordpress content going back a few decades.