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This is the most poisoned gift imaginable.
Whatever anybody wants to believe in their head, the reality is when Trump comes to office he's gonna say "ok kids, the game is over, you won what you won, but the next one of you to make a move gets smacked."
So if there's ANYTHING that can help Ukraine, it's infantry muscle so they can push the front line back.
Terror weapons are literally the worst possible thing you can give them right now, because lets say they hit Moscow, what's Putin gonna do? He's gonna attend the funeral of dead children, he's gonna put wreaths on the gravestones, and then he's gonna go on TV and announce another draft.
Then he sends a million Russians to Ukraine and they march all the way to Kiev, and THEN Trump comes to office and freezes the border.
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> Remember when you conspired with democrats to try to depose me? Well... fuck you.
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I think the Ukraine wouldn't have a choice if we pulled arms.
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@cjd @Humpleupagus How the fuck do you think this freezing the border would look like? This is the slogan, but obviously both sides have to agree to it. You're jumping to second step when first is arranging peace between RU and UA. If hohols execute on these long missiles and piss off RU, there will be no path to peace and RU will keep the whole world tied out in a proxy war until they bleed UA completely.
>Iran isn't gonna do shit.
Come on dude. Iran demonstrated hyper sonic capability before the US. How the fuck do you think that happened? How do you think Hezbollah and other guerilla is suddenly so well equipped to support months long and successful battle with a well equipped and supported state? It's already happening, it's just a matter of escalation.
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@Humpleupagus @cjd This is such a shallow interpretation of situation. There's another proxy war happening, in the Middle East. Hohols fuck around, Iran draft an army and gradually your oil stops flowing. There's already like 4 countries moving large amounts of ammo between RU and others. If GAE fucks shit up for RU, believe it they will find a way to fuck shit up for GAE and it doesn't have to be a direct war to feel consequence.
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Iran isn't gonna do shit.
Russia is going to do one thing and that's land grab as much as they possibly can before Trump freezes the borders.
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@Humpleupagus @cjd They can choose how they die, yes.
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That midget can be exterminated.
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Whoever has possession will have an incredible advantage when Trump calls for a ceasefire. And "No Piss" Zelensky has never been willing to negotiate in good faith so he won't be part of the bargaining process.
He wants Crimea back. A guy with nuclear ambitions wants the Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant returned. He wants it all to go back to how it was before Putin recognized Luhansk and Donestsk. And he wants Russia to foot the bill for *everything*. Oh, and he also wants Putin deposed. Yeah... all of those are non-starters.
You can't hold peace talks with someone that's utterly unreasonable, Ukraine will need a new leader. Ceasefire. Elections. Negotiations. Not necessarily in that order. The fine points of a proper border can be ironed out after Ukraine holds an election. Russia might trade a resource rich area for one that's predominantly Russian.