wet forest moon folklorist
its important to see clearly: the rejection of mastodon for bluesky is not a rejection of the desire to be free of our corporate overlords; its a rejection of white bros controlling digital spaces. sit with that
eugen and his interlocutors have had immense power with which to challenge twitter but their racial and cultural and ideological insularity prevented them from using it
SlightlyCyberpunk
@seachanger I dunno. It's tempting to say that Mastodon is too focused on not repeating the mistakes of other social media that they aren't replicating the good things either, while Bluesky is so focused on replicating the experience of other networks that they're repeating a lot of the same mistake too.
But that cash issue is not just a cash issue. It's an exploitation issue. As far as I can tell, "trust and safety" on other platforms simply cannot be done without mass abuse and exploitation, *even with* millions in VC money to burn. They have such "good" moderation by giving impoverished people PTSD every day in exchange for a one dollar wage. The secret isn't an algorithm, it's sweatshops full of people watching children get abused all day long. There is no tried and true solution Mastodon can use here. There is nothing they can learn from other networks. "Fuck that, we're not doing that here" is absolutely the best thing that can be learned from how other platforms handle content moderation.
Could Mastodon Gmbh do more experimentation to try to find a better solution? Sure. Always. Could other people who think they have a great solution just implement it themselves? Also yes. Several are actively doing that, with varying degrees of success. I kinda prefer that, personally. Especially considering that I have yet to see any solution that is not a centralized system. Mastodon is centralized enough already, but at least we can have multiple centers for multiple tasks instead the entire damn thing under one single company for most users.
But it is a Very Fucking Hard Problem.
wet forest moon folklorist
what we've seen in post-musk twitter world, is that people want to be with their people, and that people want to be in communities in which Black people are free. both bluesky and mastodon inherited major racism problems and tech bro culture, but jay made different choices than eugen about how to address that inheritance. no doubt she had more cash with which to do it and that cash may be the end of bluesky too. over and over i say this: don't deny it, learn from it
wet forest moon folklorist
there is nothing wrong with being here because everything we're doing is research, or as @inquiline said yesterday, maybe mastodon learns to walk so something else later can run. obviously @are0h has been saying this very clearly since before most of us got here, but to say the least many of you have not been listening. one of the hardest and also most important things we can do is scrub the mirror and try to see ourselves a little more clearly
wet forest moon folklorist
mob justice is messy and you're not going to be able to find the logical throughlines you want. you want the simple universe where things succeed based on moral righteousness but irl shit is complex. sometimes the good guys are the bad guys too
wet forest moon folklorist
as in USpol discourse, don't blame the electorate, find fault with those whose leadership and strategy choices disproportionately impact the electorate
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