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   Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: (jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net)'s status on Saturday, 16-Nov-2024 23:44:45 JST Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

   • Juha Autero

   @jautero Yes. But we also have quite our share of trolls, misogynists, racists and haters in the Fediverse. Most instance admins I know however care a lot about keeping them blocked and away from their users.

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     Bryan Ruby 🌤️ (bryanruby@me.dm)'s status on Sunday, 17-Nov-2024 00:57:43 JST Bryan Ruby 🌤️

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     • Juha Autero
     • Justin ⏚

     @JustinH @jwildeboer @jautero

     Bluesky has basic tools moderation tools you would expect (block, mute, warn, etc) you would come to expect. But they also have a labeling system (both official and allows for third-party) that allows users to report on users/posts. For instance I can use a third-party labeler to block Broncos fans (for real). All of this is voluntary for the user to use or not use. Basic image below. An example of “advanced” is Bluesky’s own:
     https://bsky.app/profile/moderation.bsky.app

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     Justin ⏚ (justinh@twit.social)'s status on Sunday, 17-Nov-2024 00:57:44 JST Justin ⏚

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     • Juha Autero
     • Bryan Ruby 🌤️

     @bryanruby @jwildeboer @jautero How does moderation on BlueSky work?

     I agree Threads shouldn't even be in the discussion but for the same reasons BlueSky shouldn't.

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     Bryan Ruby 🌤️ (bryanruby@me.dm)'s status on Sunday, 17-Nov-2024 00:57:45 JST Bryan Ruby 🌤️

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     • Juha Autero
     • Justin ⏚

     @JustinH @jwildeboer @jautero Bluesky too has put a lot of thought toward moderation. Both Mastodon and Bluesky are similar in that they’re light on algorithms and when in use are voluntary. Threads on the other hand despite connecting to the #fediverse is a bigger “cesspool” in your feed magnet due to relying on Meta algorithms. I plan to drop my Threads account once they have enough ActivityPub features to allow me to fully engage desired accounts via Mastodon.

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     Justin ⏚ (justinh@twit.social)'s status on Sunday, 17-Nov-2024 00:57:47 JST Justin ⏚

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     • Juha Autero

     @jwildeboer @jautero Yes exactly, Mastodon has mechanisms that prevent it from turning into a cesspool.

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     Bryan Ruby 🌤️ (bryanruby@me.dm)'s status on Sunday, 17-Nov-2024 01:09:01 JST Bryan Ruby 🌤️

     @jwildeboer @JustinH @jautero Looks like the “German version” is doing nothing at the moment. It would have labels on that page if it did something. As far as I can tell..not an expert.

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     Bryan Ruby 🌤️ (bryanruby@me.dm)'s status on Sunday, 17-Nov-2024 01:10:36 JST Bryan Ruby 🌤️

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     • Juha Autero
     • Justin ⏚

     @jwildeboer @JustinH @jautero Jan, I suspect that’s a placeholder for complying with German law in case something isn’t covered under global moderation tools.

     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_Enforcement_Act

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     Bryan Ruby 🌤️ (bryanruby@me.dm)'s status on Sunday, 17-Nov-2024 01:15:38 JST Bryan Ruby 🌤️

     • Juha Autero
     • Justin ⏚

     @jwildeboer @JustinH @jautero Yes, it’s interesting to see Bluesky take a hybrid approach over centralization-decentralization. They have the potential of utilizing the best of both systems as well as the worst of both systems. At this time, Bluesky’s future is highly dependent on who or what group is in control of the wheel.

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     Justin ⏚ (justinh@twit.social)'s status on Sunday, 17-Nov-2024 01:20:04 JST Justin ⏚

     • Juha Autero
     • Bryan Ruby 🌤️

     @jwildeboer @bryanruby @jautero Eh, if every individual has to do the work of moderating every single little thing that comes their way it becomes exhausting really fast.

     Putting the onus on the people being harassed to stop the harassment is a surefire way to discourage those people from participating (which knowing Dorsey & co I suspect might be part of the point!).

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     Justin ⏚ (justinh@twit.social)'s status on Sunday, 17-Nov-2024 01:37:02 JST Justin ⏚

     • Juha Autero
     • Bryan Ruby 🌤️

     @jwildeboer @bryanruby @jautero Right exactly, but I've seen no evidence that BlueSky is actually taking on (or is capable of taking on) any of the burden of moderating. Threads is good example of a quadrillion dollar company that *still* can't moderate as effectively as fediverse volunteers.

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     Paul McO'Smith III (pavsmith@theblower.au)'s status on Sunday, 17-Nov-2024 07:46:52 JST Paul McO'Smith III

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     • Juha Autero
     • Bryan Ruby 🌤️
     • Justin ⏚

     @bryanruby @JustinH @jwildeboer @jautero the only people we hate more than the judean people's front is...

     why is decentralisation and federation a Good Thing? what happens when my server goes down... for good?

     this place is complex. servers? what the hell are they? why do i need to choose one? which one should i choose? is this a safe one to choose? what are they doing? recording? selling?

     bluesky *is* twitter. the good old days. when it was safe, moderated, ad free.

     nobody ever makes the case for federation. it is always why a non federated model is wrong. the post below... who the hell cares? that's such a technical complaint. that's supposed to make me think "ooh... mastodon" as a non techie?

     what, in terms of simply being able to interact with people, is the actual advantage of mastodon? i am a techie in my day job. on social media i simply want to post stuff, read stuff, and interact with stuff.

     federation? what is that and why do i care? make the case for decentralisation.

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     Bryan Ruby 🌤️ (bryanruby@me.dm)'s status on Sunday, 17-Nov-2024 07:46:53 JST Bryan Ruby 🌤️

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     • Juha Autero
     • Justin ⏚

     @JustinH @jwildeboer @jautero

     Additional information can be found at Bluesky. The second link is a recent Verge article that talks about the “extras” you can do within Bluesky.

     https://bsky.social/about/support/community-guidelines

     https://www.theverge.com/24295933/bluesky-social-network-custom-how-to