Having been here since 2016, I can tell you there is definitely no such thing as a consensus on usage of content warnings on the fediverse. It's a decentralized network that doesn't belong to any one party, so by definition there is no single culture on it. Different corners have different expectations and customs.
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Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 11-Nov-2022 12:31:12 JST Eugen Rochko - YuriL 🕊️🤺, hinketu🎮WizardryPG and 藤井太洋, Taiyo Fujii repeated this.
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Jordan Kay (_jordan@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 11-Nov-2022 12:32:56 JST Jordan Kay @Gargron That’s right
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Eric Davis ✅ ✔️ ☑️ (ericdavis@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 11-Nov-2022 12:33:38 JST Eric Davis ✅ ✔️ ☑️ @Gargron Thank you for all the work you've done and continue to do here!
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Thomas "Vax/Boost/Mask" Fuchs (thomasfuchs@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 11-Nov-2022 12:38:54 JST Thomas "Vax/Boost/Mask" Fuchs @Gargron I subscribe to the “don’t be a dick” school of thought on CWs
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Arnon (cautionwip@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 11-Nov-2022 12:42:10 JST Arnon @Gargron the password reset function seems to be broken for me. I’m not getting an email from the system.
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User Mastodon (user_mastodon@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 11-Nov-2022 12:45:36 JST User Mastodon @Gargron Will the Mastodon update be available on Google Play in the near future?
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Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 11-Nov-2022 12:46:47 JST Eugen Rochko For my part, I've always seen them as something at the discretion of the author. As the reader, you have a plethora of tools to disengage from unwanted content on Mastodon—with even better filters coming in 4.0—and harassment is not one of them. People who are arriving now have as much right to be here and bring their own culture as the ones who came before them.
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Minas Tirith City Planner (chrisk@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 11-Nov-2022 12:47:05 JST Minas Tirith City Planner @Gargron is there a mobile app that lets you bypass CWs? The official one doesnt seem to have that option.
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?❄️ Mike ?? (eyemyke@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 11-Nov-2022 12:49:33 JST ?❄️ Mike ?? @Gargron thanks for this. i love them for spoilers and particularly triggering topics, but i am a fan of using hashtags for subjects so people can mute them. seeing CW's for every little thing just disrupts the flow (IMO).
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Minas Tirith City Planner (chrisk@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 11-Nov-2022 12:50:37 JST Minas Tirith City Planner @Gargron Glad to hear this. Was starting to think I’d need to find somewhere else to go.
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Table4One (tb41@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 11-Nov-2022 12:53:48 JST Table4One @Gargron Word. You a real one for posting this. Since I've arrived here I've seen a bunch of gatekeepers telling people what they can or cannot do, effectively standing against what I thought this place was supposed to be. ✌?
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User Mastodon (user_mastodon@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 11-Nov-2022 12:58:05 JST User Mastodon @Gargron Will the Mastodon update be available on Google Play in the near future?
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okanogen TheEnemyFromWithin (okanogen@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 11-Nov-2022 13:13:08 JST okanogen TheEnemyFromWithin @Gargron I heard the phrase "content filter" and I think it is far superior as it isn't a loaded term.
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tbluvoter 🌊⚛️💙🌍 (tbluvoter@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 11-Nov-2022 13:13:18 JST tbluvoter 🌊⚛️💙🌍 @Gargron Thank you!
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TBQ (tbqtalks@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 11-Nov-2022 13:16:48 JST TBQ @Gargron Thank you for this update. There's a lot of strong voices in the CW debate so it's nice to hear from people in charge of servers to get their take.
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Sarah Perez 💙 (sarahp@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 11-Nov-2022 13:21:36 JST Sarah Perez 💙 @Gargron well now I’m confused because def just had a whole conversation today about how I should not posting tech news w/o a warning. Def don’t want to come in here & disrupt existing culture but also feel like ppl who don’t want “x” in their feed (where x isn’t a highly sensitive/ triggering topic, just an annoyance) would be better served by keyword filters. But that’s further down the road?
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Helles Sachsen (helles_sachsen@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 11-Nov-2022 14:32:06 JST Helles Sachsen ???
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Helles Sachsen (helles_sachsen@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 11-Nov-2022 15:02:46 JST Helles Sachsen What is with jokes, that looks like real news? "Gargron tells the Wall Street Journal that he will bid 1Mio to buy Twitter after Musk said it is for sale.(dpa)"
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Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 11-Nov-2022 15:02:47 JST Eugen Rochko @EnricoilLeone Please see the rules of mastodon.online on the about page. Sharing intentionally false or misleading information, or promoting violent ideologies is not permitted. My thread is about content warnings.
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Enrico (enricoilleone@mastodon.online)'s status on Friday, 11-Nov-2022 15:02:48 JST Enrico @Gargron Hi Eugen, you do not think that there is a danger in spreading disinformation and conspiracy theories, and that fascism and polarisation might grow? Not everything is OK and should be tolerated.
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MoveFastAndFixThings (gwilymgj@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 11-Nov-2022 15:59:51 JST MoveFastAndFixThings @Gargron this post needs to be pinned at the top of new feeds for a week after signing up. We are a universe, not a world.
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FraterPhoenix (fraterphoenix@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 11-Nov-2022 16:14:30 JST FraterPhoenix @Gargron That is the meaning of collective consciousness. The more comes together, the larger the diversity. It is also a sign of human growth and unity. Why it is important to learn from each other.
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kuzmandi (kuzmandi@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 11-Nov-2022 16:25:57 JST kuzmandi @Gargron I think content warnings are a highly individual, different need from person to person, which cannot be adequately met on the part of the sender. If you want to act responsibly, sooner or later you will set a content warning for almost everything, which could be implemented more reliably and easily on the recipient side.
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celiz@mastodon.social's status on Friday, 11-Nov-2022 16:27:48 JST celiz @Gargron i am so greatfull for this post. thank you!!
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sortius (sortius@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 11-Nov-2022 16:54:54 JST sortius @Gargron Thank you for saying this, it's a great comfort to have the devs speak out about this
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phatcontroller (phatcontroller@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 11-Nov-2022 16:59:55 JST phatcontroller @Gargron Some of the new people on Mastodon (not Mastodon social specifically) are experiencing racism. What measures exist to block racism and remove racists? Given that existing measures are proving insufficient what more can be done to overcome this problem?
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Simon Archer (archy_bold@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 11-Nov-2022 17:09:59 JST Simon Archer @Gargron I guess this particular server (mastodon.social) is pretty laid back about them? There isn’t any defined convention regarding politics/topical subjects?
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We Want EVERYTHING! 🌹 (berniewoniowa@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 11-Nov-2022 17:24:36 JST We Want EVERYTHING! 🌹 @Gargron
I try to remember content warnings but sometimes I forget -
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Kelvin L (klausenhauser@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 11-Nov-2022 19:42:56 JST Kelvin L @Gargron thanks for the clarification. For newbies it’s quite unclear
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h from the website (scaryh@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 11-Nov-2022 20:12:55 JST h from the website @Gargron People are sensitive to stories about the "crazy content warning culture of masto" because they have bad experiences with Twitter social groups that do these things. To them, seeing that culture go from being borne up by a social group to being part of the platform (ie: your instance has users that believe in it and moderators that enforce it) is worrying. Yes, they can choose instances, but those can be blocked by other instances!
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SameGirlie (samegirlie@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 11-Nov-2022 20:44:46 JST SameGirlie This is happening. Do not tell me it isn't.
(and left out of the headline: "and threatened to harm a 12-year-old boy")
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Alexander Hay (alexanderhay@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 11-Nov-2022 22:37:40 JST Alexander Hay @Gargron I've been polluting the fediverse with my presence since 2018, and this is the first time I've seen CWs being made such an issue. Partly, I think this is down to the old guard feeling a bit worried and trying to mark out its turf.
For my part, I use them on my own discretion, not whether @thingy@mammoth.trunk in Sacramento will tell me off if I don't.
If everyone is doing their best, and in good faith, and the vast majority of people here are, I personally see it as a non-issue.
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Adam Moore (conflictgeo@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 11-Nov-2022 22:56:20 JST Adam Moore @Gargron
Appreciate this, Eugen. Something that has confused me about the endless stream of posts telling newbies to conform to the norms of mastodon concerning content warnings, etc. is precisely that it cuts against the whole point of a decentralized network with different practices and views. -
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Michael :mastodon: (mykd@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 11-Nov-2022 23:14:18 JST Michael :mastodon: @Gargron The comments under this post are a great illustration of the need for a threading mechanism in Mastodon.
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Quantum (quantumaspect@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 11-Nov-2022 23:44:50 JST Quantum @Gargron But it is always kind to think about the "original" culture and maybe see benefits and act in accordance. Not mandatory of course.
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Mark Britten (lemonflavoured@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 12-Nov-2022 01:14:15 JST Mark Britten @Gargron I don't ever expect there to be consensus on anything anywhere on the Internet ?
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Miranda Whiting (mirandawhiting@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 12-Nov-2022 01:58:56 JST Miranda Whiting @Gargron Thank you. Some of the discussion has felt very judgemental and offputting.
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Salmndr (salmndr@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 12-Nov-2022 07:13:13 JST Salmndr @Gargron Agreed!
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Jason Martin (jasonact@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 12-Nov-2022 08:02:06 JST Jason Martin @Gargron Sort of like irl, right?
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Luis Prof (luisprof@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 12-Nov-2022 09:15:44 JST Luis Prof @Gargron yes oh great master of cats
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skyfishgo (skyfishgoo@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 12-Nov-2022 09:35:52 JST skyfishgo @Gargronat
at my disposal so that i can craft a post that has the impact i would intend.
seems silly for some topics to always behind a CW and others not
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Andrew Young (andryou@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 12-Nov-2022 11:05:10 JST Andrew Young @Gargron Would there be any possibility of a $8/month Patreon level?
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Dave Land (dland@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 12-Nov-2022 11:22:21 JST Dave Land @Gargron Thank you. People seem to struggle to understand that the norms on your server may not be the same on another, and even less so across the entire Fediverse, even though content flows between them seamlessly.
A vegan-centric server might prefer content warnings on photos of charcuterie, but probably not a Brazilian server, and they wouldn't to expect the entire Fediverse to adhere to their standards.
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healyn (healyn@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 13-Nov-2022 06:18:30 JST healyn @Gargron there will be a consensus once i get done with it
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Tinu - Empress of Twerk (tinu@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 13-Nov-2022 07:36:33 JST Tinu - Empress of Twerk @Gargron As one of the people central to this controversy I feel I should clear some things up.
My problem was never content warnings. I asked a question. Behind a content warning. As a reply I will link it here.
My question was, as a Black person, would I need to talk about both race and racism behind a content warning.
The general consensus was yes because people found it triggering.
When I first asked, I was thinking of news items with triggering photos. I later found out that
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Jesse Liberty (jesseliberty@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 14-Nov-2022 05:39:41 JST Jesse Liberty @Gargron thanks. I should have guessed that but when in a new land one wants to avoid inadvertently offending
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James Slezak (jslez@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Nov-2022 10:47:46 JST James Slezak @Gargron ????
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Shannon Edrie (shannonedrie@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Nov-2022 11:09:25 JST Shannon Edrie @Gargron thanks for saying that I have been really stressed
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cpgorski (cpgorski@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 21-Nov-2022 06:13:06 JST cpgorski @Gargron @mattblaze ... the downside of that seems to be, people from all over the fediverse feel like they are justified in harassing newcomers who violate their (narrow, single-cultural) expectations... instead of blocking and moving on