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   LostInCalifornia (lostincalifornia@spinster.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Nov-2024 18:44:53 JST LostInCalifornia

   Abortion measure lost in Florida because it only got 57% of the vote (needed 60).

   Meanwhile, this is a red state victory:

   Missouri overturns abortion ban as voters approve a core right to reproductive freedom

   https://www.yahoo.com/news/missouri-overturns-abortion-ban-voters-042958539.html

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     @LostInCalifornia @Notgonnastop @starsstorm @KuteboiCoder
     
     Although I'm pro-abortion, this is nonsense.
     
     No one has died from a state level ban. You just go to a nearby state.
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     @amerika@annihilation.social @LostInCalifornia@spinster.xyz @Notgonnastop@spinster.xyz @starsstorm@spinster.xyz
     
     THIS! ☝
     
     The fact is, abortion referenda passed in the majority of states in which they were held - all of which were red states or swing states that went to Trump, as blue states have no need for an abortion referendum.
     
     That means that voters take Trump's word for it that abortion legalization will be a state issue.
     
     That means that no GOP candidate or party strategist will ever need to take sides on the abortion question; the voters have answered it themselves. If Dems try to politicize the issue - "vote for us to keep abortion legal" - voters will ignore them, and the more they rely on abortion messaging the less relevant they become.

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     @KuteboiCoder @amerika @starsstorm @Notgonnastop Funny how women are dead because of your fake issue, isn't it?

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     LostInCalifornia (lostincalifornia@spinster.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Nov-2024 18:44:52 JST LostInCalifornia

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     @Notgonnastop True, but the real threat is a federal ban, which the GOP, including Vance, have promised,

     The best they're offering is "we'll take your right to bodily autonomy, but we may help you as a welfare mom" as Vance said in his "softened" approach.

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     @LostInCalifornia @Notgonnastop That’s a farce
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     @starsstorm @Notgonnastop Of course it is.

     "Exceptions" to save a woman's life is also a farce - hospitals will be reopening sepsis wards, and everyone knows women lie about rape.

     GOP is a farce on abortion. Always has been.

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     Historically, you are right
     
     Trump got them away from "nationwide ban" to "#10A issue"
     
     And defanged the radical Christian side of the Right
     
     Also on exceptions
     https://www.amerika.org/politics/texas-abortion-debacle-is-fake-news/
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     Notgonnastop (notgonnastop@spinster.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Nov-2024 18:44:53 JST Notgonnastop

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     @LostInCalifornia Here's the rub - we can pass all the referendum/constitutional amendments in the states, but if a state's Supreme Court is controlled by hardline conservative Republicans those laws and amendments will not get enforced.
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     Yes, exactly. The voters take it up with the state legislature and it is no longer a federal question.
     
     I hope they do the same with drugs and gay marriage.
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     @amerika@annihilation.social @LostInCalifornia@spinster.xyz @starsstorm@spinster.xyz @Notgonnastop@spinster.xyz
     
     If I were advising the GOP in running against Kamala I would have gone full marijuana legalization, just to get the #ACAB vote.
     
     We got over half of #genZ men but we could have gotten more of the ladies, I think.

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     I favor decriminalization. Legalization has been a failure generally.
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