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   nadja (dequbed@mastodon.chaosfield.at)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Nov-2024 05:20:04 JST nadja

   • Buck Moon

   @bootblackcub In terms of E2EE both are pretty bad, but XMPP is *slightly* worse. If E2EE does not matter to you (likely since you're setting up your own server anyway), then it depends if you need 1:1 chats or want a good chat room experience. XMPP can not offer the latter, but is as a whole experience better for the first (although the protocol shows how incredibly dated it is in the features it plain does not have, like replies/threads or reactions).

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     Kari'boka (kariboka@social.harpia.red)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Nov-2024 05:19:50 JST Kari'boka

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     @debacle @dequbed @bootblackcub @prose Reactions are also enabled in #Dino, #Gajim, #Cheogram and #Monocles
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     Debacle (debacle@framapiaf.org)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Nov-2024 05:20:00 JST Debacle

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     @dequbed @bootblackcub

     Note, that #Jabber has message replies and message reactions since some time now. Replies are implemented at least in #Dino, #Gajim, #Kaidan, and #Prose. Reactions are implemented at least in #Conversations, Dino, Gajim, Kaidan, #Movim, and Prose. Probably more.

     TTBOMK, the #XMPP protocol itself has threads since ages, but I'm not aware of any implementation in a client. @prose is working on it, so I heard.

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     Buck Moon (bootblackcub@woof.group)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Nov-2024 22:52:16 JST Buck Moon

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     @dequbed @lbja @debacle @prose hey guys, may i ask if this is going to be a big back and forth debate thread i not be tagged in future replys? thanx

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     lbja (lbja@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Nov-2024 22:52:21 JST lbja

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     @dequbed @debacle @bootblackcub @prose At least the XMPP devs are improving existing internet standards. It's always easy to start from scratch, but it only leads to more fragmentation. We need more standard compliance in the messenger space and less venture capital funded startups like Matrix cooking up their own incompatible protocols.

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     nadja (dequbed@mastodon.chaosfield.at)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Nov-2024 22:52:21 JST nadja

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     @lbja @debacle @bootblackcub @prose Is pull 706 merged yet? No? Yeah, I'm not buying the "improving existing internet standards" part. But hey, there are only 495 (published) XEPs yet, I'm sure that's much better for fragmentation!

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     nadja (dequbed@mastodon.chaosfield.at)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Nov-2024 22:52:24 JST nadja

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     @debacle @bootblackcub @prose Oh XMPP actually got itself reactions and replies. I'm positively surprised. Only took them, what, 15 years?