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   anime graf mays ?️? (graf@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 21:29:14 JST anime graf mays ?️?
   >got the nitter down to less than 5 limited accounts in 400 by blocking TOR
   best decision i made in a long time. fuck you guys
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 21:29:13 JST 翠星石

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     @A39IsTOZ8SJIr2oM2y.graf@poa.st It was never "TOR" - it's Tor.
     
     As expected from you not respecting the users freedom by requiring execution of proprietary JavaScript to use the site, you now also don't respect their privacy either.
     
     Meanwhile xcancel.com works fine and respects your freedom and privacy.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 21-Nov-2024 15:16:58 JST 翠星石

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     • ShtPoastAnon
     @ShtPoastAnon Cope and seethe.
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     ShtPoastAnon (shtpoastanon@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 21-Nov-2024 15:16:59 JST ShtPoastAnon

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     • 翠星石
     @Suiseiseki @graf fuck tor
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 21-Nov-2024 15:20:32 JST 翠星石

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     • RW Fren Squads
     @catmanmancat >He owes us nothing.
     He may not owe anyone anything, but everyone deserves to not be attacked with proprietary software.
     
     >He's providing us a free service
     If the service requires running proprietary JavaScript to access, it is a nonfree service.
     
     I'm complaining about his attack on the users freedom - not about the service.
     
     He could simply make the captcha JavaScript free software and there would be no issue freedom-wise.
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     RW Fren Squads (catmanmancat@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 21-Nov-2024 15:20:34 JST RW Fren Squads

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     • 翠星石
     @Suiseiseki @graf Xcancel probably isn't being bombarded with automated requests to essentially scrape all of Twitter flooding the server with requests and crazy data demands that the owner pays out of pocket for bandwidth like graf does on his hobby project.
     
     He owes us nothing. He's providing us a free service that is generally labor intensive on his part to keep it running. We knaur the terms, don't like the way the site is managed use a different one instead of complaining to a dude who spends 70% of his life busting his ass to provide us with free services to almost no thanks.
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     anime graf mays ?️? (graf@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 21-Nov-2024 15:23:08 JST anime graf mays ?️?

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     • RW Fren Squads
     @catmanmancat @Suiseiseki xcancel is using at least 2x 400 accounts (xcancel.com/.health) and doesn't get a quarter of the traffic we do. im glad he can use another service so he can stop bogging mine down
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 21-Nov-2024 15:23:08 JST 翠星石

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     @A39IsTOZ8SJIr2oM2y.graf@poa.st >so he can stop bogging mine down
     I make the mistake of trying to look at a post that was on made extwitter once a month at most and how could that possibly bog yours down, considering I haven't even tried to use it in the past several months?
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 21-Nov-2024 21:02:08 JST 翠星石

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     • Francisco
     • RW Fren Squads
     @Francisco @catmanmancat Proprietary software denies all four freedoms (https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.en.html#four-freedoms), so hosting a website that serves proprietary software (https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/javascript-trap.html) and then recommending that people use that website is an attack on freedom.
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     Francisco (francisco@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 21-Nov-2024 21:02:09 JST Francisco

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     • RW Fren Squads
     @Suiseiseki @catmanmancat I don't get it, how is it an attack on freedom?
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 21-Nov-2024 21:05:59 JST 翠星石

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     • Francisco
     @Francisco Inducing the user to lose part of their freedom and then proceeding to take it is how you attack freedom.
     
     The distribution of each and every proprietary program is an individual attack on freedom.
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     Francisco (francisco@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 21-Nov-2024 21:06:00 JST Francisco

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     • RW Fren Squads
     @Suiseiseki @catmanmancat I'm asking how tho
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     Francisco (francisco@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 21-Nov-2024 21:13:24 JST Francisco

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     • 翠星石
     @Suiseiseki What part of their freedom is taken away, and how?
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 21-Nov-2024 21:13:24 JST 翠星石

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     • Francisco
     @Francisco 1. The freedom to study how the program works, and change it so it does your computing as you wish (freedom 1). Access to the source code is a precondition for this. - the JavaScript is served in obfuscript form without function names or comments or indenting, thus understanding the program would require reverse engineering and doing so may be illegal.
     
     2. The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help others (freedom 2). - no license means you are forbidden from redistributing it by copyright.
     
     3. The freedom to distribute copies of your modified versions to others (freedom 3). By doing this you can give the whole community a chance to benefit from your changes. Access to the source code is a precondition for this. - you don't have freedoms 1 or 2, so you don't have 3.
     
     
     These freedoms may seem odd by those used to having them taken by proprietary software companies, but all users deserve them and should demand them.
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     Francisco (francisco@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 14:12:36 JST Francisco

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     • 翠星石
     @Suiseiseki Those 3 points are more of an infringement of the rights of others, rather than freedom.
     
     The deceptive redefinition of the word "Freedom" reeks of a talmudic asshole move.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 14:12:36 JST 翠星石

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     • Francisco
     @Francisco >more of an infringement of the rights of others, rather than freedom.
     Please do explain.
     
     It is not right to say that; "no, you cannot modify and/or share that written work" - that is rather wrong and is a restriction.
     
     All the creative works I publish are under a free license that respects the 4 freedoms.
     
     >deceptive redefinition of the word "Freedom"
     It is deceptive to claim that government enforced restrictions on freedom (copyright) is what freedom is.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 14:21:01 JST 翠星石

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     • ShtPoastAnon
     @ShtPoastAnon >it's people doing cover for obviously bad actors
     I use tor by default to do whatever and I must be a bad actor.
     
     Competent bad actors don't use tor - they use their own better networks of compromised IoStings devices and windows computers, which don't have haram IPs.
     
     A small percentage of tor's userspace is incompetent bad actors that are easily detected.
     
     >Just don't use the internet because tor isn't even fast.
     It's faster than dial-up, so it's perfectly usable.
     
     >the exit nodes are well monitored so unless you run your own, the privacy argument is already out the window.
     Due to tor's design, the exit node does not know who sent the packet and if you use TLS, the exit node doesn't know what's in the packet.
     
     The glowers may run a few exit nodes (malicious nodes that carry out attacks are detected and removed from the network) and some nodes may have their connection monitored, but really that is true of any connection that is routed via the USA.
     
     If you were to run your own exit and exclusively use that without a serious amount of other people using it, you would have no privacy, as it would be obvious as to who the connections were coming from.
     
     tor also supports .onion services, which do not use exit nodes.
     
     I smell lack of knowledge on your part really.
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     ShtPoastAnon (shtpoastanon@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 14:21:02 JST ShtPoastAnon

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     • 翠星石
     @Suiseiseki Every single time the tor argument gets brought it it's people doing cover for obviously bad actors. Just don't use the internet because tor isn't even fast. And the exit nodes are well monitored so unless you run your own, the privacy argument is already out the window.