Wolf480pl
@ChemicalTribe @TruthSandwich @breizh @BobCollins
anyway
> blocking someone for calling out their nonsense is quite hilarious
Sandwich had every right to block you.
And I think it's not hilarious. It's sad. Because it means communication broke down before the two of you had a chance to understand each other.
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Wolf480pl
@ChemicalTribe @TruthSandwich @breizh @BobCollins
> claim about how Russia was doing before the ussr fell, ignoring why that was the case
You're assuming everyone knows why it was the case, but most ppl don't. As TechnologyConnections said in the OP, you're jumping to step 8, but you gotta start with step 1.
> implementation is where that gets tricky to define
Implementation is all that matters.
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Wolf480pl
@ChemicalTribe @TruthSandwich @breizh @BobCollins
If what you want is to feel good for being right on the internet, and making some "evil people" angry, then sure, you can stay on the level of buzzwords and abstract ideas like "capitalism" and "socialism".
But as TechnologyConnections said, these words mean sth different to everyone, and most people associate strong emotions with them and get defensive. That hinders reasonable discussion.
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ChemicalTribe
@wolf480pl
Lol, blocking someone for calling out their nonsense is quite hilarious, what a snowflake, esp after their claim about how Russia was doing before the ussr fell, ignoring why that was the case, and what the entire world did to Russia after that with shock capitalism.
Anyhow, regarding the truck part, implementation is where that gets tricky to define. I would say collectively.
Wolf480pl
@ChemicalTribe @TruthSandwich @breizh @BobCollins
Just to make sure:
is this post that was the start of this entire thread: https://mas.to/@TechConnectify/113439228778559485
visible to you?
ChemicalTribe
@wolf480pl
Maybe lol I'm using fedilab. But it's obv now broken.
Anyhow, if I'm just trying to get in zings, I'll stop.
@TruthSandwich @breizh @BobCollins
ChemicalTribe
@wolf480pl
I view it as the working class owning the means of production.
Truth sandwich seems to have been erased from my view or plucked away
@TruthSandwich @breizh @BobCollins
Wolf480pl
@ChemicalTribe @TruthSandwich @breizh @BobCollins
> TruthSandwich has been erased from my view
Yeah that happens when someone blocks you (as opposed to just muting)
> working class owning means of the production
Individually or collectively?
When a trucker owns his truck, does that count towards that goal?
ChemicalTribe
@wolf480pl
I don't disagree with breizh's position. It's not even really the issue as humans can't really implement pure socialism since like the ussr, those in power stole from the ppl.
But leave even a hint of capitalism in play, and the capitalists will eventually win.
@TruthSandwich @breizh @BobCollins
Wolf480pl
@ChemicalTribe @TruthSandwich @breizh @BobCollins
define socialism
Wolf480pl
@TruthSandwich @ChemicalTribe @breizh @BobCollins
For fucks sake, did either of you read the OP? Do you have any intention of understanding each other's ppsition, or are you just here to throw mud at each other?
Truth Sandwich 🇺🇸😱💀
@ChemicalTribe @breizh @BobCollins @wolf480pl
I support well-regulated capitalism, which is the only thing that works.
I also report and block vulgar communists.
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