wet forest moon folklorist
my stepsister and I joked about tattooing the 2016 primary polling match ups against trump on our foreheads. Maybe this was in deference to a photo I was sharing of a disheveled white guy holding a piece of corrugated cardboard at a caucus on which he’d scribbled, in failing old dude handwriting, the same numbers. he was walking around a caucus trying to get people to see:
sanders beats trump, hillary doesn’t. this was known in early 2016. many of us were not surprised at all in November 2016
your auntifa liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦
*siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh* that was part of the whole onslaught of manufactured discontent that was EXACTLY like 2004, 2008, 2012, 2016 but y'all and the leadership of the Democratic Party DO NOT LEARN FROM YOUR MISTAKES.
if you have never ran a server with a blog or forum about US politics, you have no idea the amount of manufactured bullshit that can be easily pushed via bots and real trolls.
BTW a number of psyops companies operate from Canada
Paul Cantrell
@blogdiva @MisuseCase @seachanger @MrEdgarBass
All of us who are anywhere on the “opposed to fascism” segment of the political spectrum need to learn how to build resilience against this kind of externally manufactured infighting and demotivation. Like yesterday.
Misuse Case
@blogdiva @seachanger @MrEdgarBass The thing about Warren is that at the time, a lot of leftists disliked her too, I guess because she was running against Sanders. Even though their politics were not that different.
your auntifa liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦
about #1: that was thanks to Michael Bloomberg and Tom Steyer. they used their campaigns to grease the palms of that bootlicking Jim Clyburn (yes, i said it). that shit was completely manufactured and it was absolutely wild to see it being done in real time during the fucking pandemic.
Bloomberg BTW got the GOP nomination for mayor of NYC during another catastrophe: THE PRIMARIES WHERE SEPTEMBER 11, 2001
2020 was shock & awe primaries & elections
your auntifa liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦
REMEMBER they ran interference because ELIZABETH WARREN was an existential threat —that's how Bloomberg described her— to American billionaires if she joined forces with Sanders.
Harris was paid by Steyer to drop out of the race first.
so, yeah.
2020 was all about the billionaires too.
Misuse Case
@seachanger @MrEdgarBass There are 2 ground truths about Biden that a lot of leftists are in denial about:
1) He became the front runner in the 2020 primary because a largely black primary electorate in South Carolina voted for him.
2) Biden’s platform in 2020 was very similar to Sanders’ and a lot of what he did or tried to do in office was taking direction from Sanders.
Misuse Case
@seachanger @MrEdgarBass This erases all the black voters in South Carolina who chose Biden (for whatever reason). It’s a form of election denialism all by itself.
wet forest moon folklorist
@MisuseCase @MrEdgarBass it means they used an undemocratic process to determine a winner - Obama and Clyburn made moves, moves counter to the direction the base was headed and voting - Sanders first, Buttigieg second at the time of the power play
Fuck around and find out
Misuse Case
@MrEdgarBass @seachanger >> Or how in 2020 they got half a dozen candidates to drop out before Mar 3 Super Tuesday so Joe Biden would win?
This is how primaries normally work and have historically worked. It does not mean something nefarious was going on.
MrEdgarBass
@MisuseCase @seachanger Who are the puppet masters running the Democratic Party? Remember how they were so insistent that Joe Biden run in 2016 that they even had an empty lectern at debates in case he wanted to show up? Or how in 2020 they got half a dozen candidates to drop out before Mar 3 Super Tuesday so Joe Biden would win?
Misuse Case
@seachanger @MrEdgarBass But also to address another point, if Biden had run in 2016 he’d probably have won.
Misuse Case
@seachanger @MrEdgarBass Pelosi’s chosen successor is Hakeem Jeffries who does not treat the progressive caucus (including the Squad) like the red-headed stepchildren of the Democratic Party, even though Pelosi did.
MrEdgarBass
@seachanger Those geriatrics will eventually age out ala Dianne Fienstein. The question is who will follow? What does the future hold for Summer Lee, Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib, and Jasmine Crockett?
wet forest moon folklorist
@MrEdgarBass Pelosi etc are working very hard to hand the baton to young sycophants - change will *never* come from the top of the Dem party down
there is a path for local people to hijack it from the bottom up
MrEdgarBass
@seachanger Fingers crossed that this is the beginning of the end of neo-liberalism. Say goodbye to Bill and Hillary Clinton. Adios to Joe Biden. Adieu to Charles Schumer. Resign Jamie Harrison. Retire Nancy Pelosi. End the rightward shift.
wet forest moon folklorist
@MrEdgarBass except those motherfuckers are not resigning — they’re going on tv to blame the base lol
wet forest moon folklorist
why did people start going to bernie sanders rallies en masse to hear him repeat the same shit over and over? because someone, anyone, in the national electoral arena was finally cutting the bullshit and calling our situation as he saw it, which was very similar to how we were living it.
a movement of self-organizing groups of people united by a simple story and our lived experience came together and it wasn’t work to organize for that campaign, it was sheer pleasure
wet forest moon folklorist
we live in a country with a brutal history currently being brutalized by billionaires. contemporary liberalism, aligned with the ever aggrandizing forces of late stage capitalism, sells people the idea that they can check out of our history, out of this abject mess of a country, and let the experts handle it. buy a bigger tv and a nicer car on credit, your political participation is only needed for 5 min every 4 years and shame on you if you don’t show up or if you don’t vote blue no matter who
wet forest moon folklorist
it was at the very start of sanders campaign, in 2015, when I first noticed that msnbc had shown the wrong number on a match up graphic. I’d gone and looked up the poll and the cross tabs and compared with my screenshot and there it was, they were literally lying to their audience! sanders was on fire but the cnn/msnbc set was being propagandized with a different version of reality
wet forest moon folklorist
our parents, having parasocial relationships with msnbc stars, could not hear us. my stepsister, older and wiser, chose to avoid discussing it. but I had ugly arguments with them. I couldn’t believe that my single mom had raised me barely above the poverty level, working as she did in social services as Clinton attacked the poor, took me to a rural jesse jackson rally as a child, but then fell under hillary clinton’s spell so deeply that we couldn’t even discuss the polls realistically
Paul Cantrell
@blogdiva @MisuseCase @seachanger @MrEdgarBass
Yeah. And I mean, the community usually end up whacking those moles, but somehow still end up repeating the things they were saying.
You’ll have to work pretty hard to convince me that these sort of tactics weren’t part of the depressed turnout this time.
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SERIOUSLY!
back in 2007 there was a "Women For Hillary" running on Xitter that then turned absolutely racist once Obama won the nomination. someone with better psyops chops went and blew the cover for a GOP plant who then went on to work for HuffPo and then Breitbart. grock. am bad with names, so i can't remember that fucker's name. but yeah. HuffPo was basically the billionaires way to kill the netroots.
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