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    Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 08-Nov-2024 13:24:37 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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    • Misuse Case

    @Voline @MisuseCase @futurebird
    With apologies, I double disagree:

    Yes, it’s actionable. If we want black women to win, we have to acknowledge that misogyny/misogynoir •is• a barrier and tackle it directly.

    Re the rationalization, I feel the same in reverse: lots of blaming of the Dem party (while often deserved; the persuadable center-right voter nationwide number in the dozens) feels like an attempt to avoid the above.

    In conversation Friday, 08-Nov-2024 13:24:37 JST from hachyderm.io permalink

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      Chairman Meow ᓚᘏᗢ 🦋🍉 (darcher@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 08-Nov-2024 14:16:15 JST Chairman Meow ᓚᘏᗢ 🦋🍉 Chairman Meow ᓚᘏᗢ 🦋🍉
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      @inthehands In that case what would the appropriate action(s) be?

      Let's say some people need to acknowledge misogynoir. Who are they? How do we get them to acknowledge it? What will change once they do? And, more to the point, what could the Harris campaign have done differently? Let alone regular voters.

      (FTR though, I'm with @futurebird. It' seems implausible shedding that many Biden '20 votes, in that many places, was mostly one big problem.)

      @Voline @MisuseCase

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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 08-Nov-2024 14:20:08 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      @darcher @futurebird @Voline @MisuseCase
      I mean, “what action do you take to combat systemic marginalization of form X” is both (1) an enormous question and (2) a question that does, in fact, generally have answers. I don’t presume to be an expert. I’m simply asking people to acknowledge the damned problem exists.

      You said, “What should the Harris campaign have done?” Please note that I said “we,” not “they.”

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      Chairman Meow ᓚᘏᗢ 🦋🍉 (darcher@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 08-Nov-2024 14:26:20 JST Chairman Meow ᓚᘏᗢ 🦋🍉 Chairman Meow ᓚᘏᗢ 🦋🍉
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      @inthehands right, that's kind of the point. The people you're asking already acknowledge it. Some may even be taking action to reduce it.

      If you want to encourage a broader movement to address misogynoir, it seems helpful to have an explanation for why that hasn't happened already. I mentioned the campaign because that was the original topic. Plus some future Black woman's campaign might benefit.

      @futurebird @Voline @MisuseCase

      In conversation Friday, 08-Nov-2024 14:26:20 JST permalink

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