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   Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Nov-2024 17:20:43 JST Eugen Rochko

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   I think it's going to be more important than ever that #Mastodon and the #fediverse are not centrally operated out of the US like almost every other social media platform out there.

   • NeonPurpleStar :heart_bi:, Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 and 10π🍇 like this.
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     NeonPurpleStar :heart_bi: (neonpurplestar@outerheaven.club)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Nov-2024 17:22:21 JST NeonPurpleStar :heart_bi:

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     @Gargron i have never been prouder to be in the fediverse
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     Fred Rocha (john_fisherman@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Nov-2024 17:23:50 JST Fred Rocha

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     @Gargron blatantly clear, man. Keep up the good work!

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     Atha Ahuluheluw (martranslations@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Nov-2024 17:24:14 JST Atha Ahuluheluw

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     @Gargron I actually find solace in the fact that I'm here in a safe place. So thanks for all your hard work.

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     Gary "grim" Kramlich (grimmy@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Nov-2024 17:24:40 JST Gary "grim" Kramlich

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     @Gargron yay thinking I might prioritize a mastodon and/or general activity pub plugin in @pidgin now...

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     Gerard Braad (gbraad@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Nov-2024 17:27:30 JST Gerard Braad

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     and/or hosted

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     Nevarro (nevarro@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Nov-2024 17:27:41 JST Nevarro

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     @Gargron I hate it when I read „Twitter/X has become so bad, now go use Bluesky“. No, Bluesky is not the solution, it’s (going to be) a part of the problem.

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     Nevarro (nevarro@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Nov-2024 17:29:00 JST Nevarro

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     @Gargron I hate it when I read „Twitter/X has become so bad, now go use Bluesky“. No, Bluesky is not the solution, it’s (going to be) a part of the problem.

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     Nevarro (nevarro@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Nov-2024 17:29:05 JST Nevarro

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     @Gargron I hate it when I read „Twitter/X has become so bad, now go use Bluesky“. No, Bluesky is not the solution, it’s (going to be) a part of the problem.

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     Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Nov-2024 17:30:43 JST Eugen Rochko

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     • Parade du Grotesque 💀

     @ParadeGrotesque Where?

     Kari'boka and Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 like this.
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     Parade du Grotesque 💀 (paradegrotesque@mastodon.sdf.org)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Nov-2024 17:30:44 JST Parade du Grotesque 💀

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     @Gargron

     You took money from Facebook - that ship has sailed.

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     Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Nov-2024 17:32:12 JST Eugen Rochko

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     • vruz

     @vruz The board of the 501c3 does not have any legal power over the German entity which holds all the assets. This is a concern I've already had in mind.

     Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 likes this.
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     vruz (vruz@mstdn.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Nov-2024 17:32:13 JST vruz

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     @Gargron

     It is central that you do not involve any American citizens in the board of directors too.

     Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 likes this.
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     Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Nov-2024 17:39:26 JST Eugen Rochko

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     • vruz

     @vruz I'll repeat, separate entity. They're not "inside"--except as trusted advisors and mentors.

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     vruz (vruz@mstdn.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Nov-2024 17:39:27 JST vruz

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     @Gargron

     I can obviously imagine the concern has crossed your mind, but the idea that the German legal system can stop an insider attack seems not very well thought out.

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     xs4me2 (xs4me2@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Nov-2024 17:46:29 JST xs4me2

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     @Gargron

     The very reason I am here…

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     Hhhggythh (hhhggythh@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Nov-2024 18:11:57 JST Hhhggythh

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     @Gargron https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.yourdashloading.com/25KW3TMP/7CQ2DZ3F/&source=gmail&ust=1730970017010000&usg=AOvVaw0WzfzRKxkyNkIfwwHlD97f

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     Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Nov-2024 18:20:00 JST Eugen Rochko

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     • Parade du Grotesque 💀

     @ParadeGrotesque No, where have I taken any money from Facebook? Care to back it up?

     Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 likes this.
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     Parade du Grotesque 💀 (paradegrotesque@mastodon.sdf.org)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Nov-2024 18:20:49 JST Parade du Grotesque 💀

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     @Gargron

     Into your complete and utter irrelevance.

     Your instance accept anyone, even the worst spammers, and your little behind-the-scene backroom deals with FB and friends are fooling no one.

     You have my respect fro writing something usable and useful but it is way past its due-date.

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     Dmian 🇪🇺 (dmian@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Nov-2024 18:22:34 JST Dmian 🇪🇺

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     @Gargron My current minimum standard is: I don’t get on a platform if it can’t federate. ActivityPub is here to stay.

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     vadiveluraaya (vadiveluraaya@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Nov-2024 19:22:58 JST vadiveluraaya

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     @Gargron https://tophomewarranty.online/manage.php?gem_id=388&ocm_id=e3c29bd3-1d95-11ef-a697-e3c2ded8

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     Pedro Machado Santa (pedrosanta@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Nov-2024 19:58:00 JST Pedro Machado Santa

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     @Gargron I agree. Still, what's the matter with Social Web Foundation? Honest question.

     I see all this dubious company over there. What's the game plan to have them on the party?

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     Dutch Investor (dutchinvestor@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Nov-2024 20:03:10 JST Dutch Investor

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     @Gargron Thanks Eugen for sharing this vision. However, I think there is a mighty lot of work to do making Mastodon more accessible to average users

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     Possumantha (kastope@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Nov-2024 20:08:22 JST Possumantha

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     @Gargron Get yourself a thumb drive and download tails for a start. https://tails.net/

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     Christopher Manning (fotgjengeren@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Nov-2024 20:58:22 JST Christopher Manning

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     @Gargron I'm new here, but yeah the landscape seems totally different. Definitely important

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     aadwvw (aadwvw@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Nov-2024 21:01:56 JST aadwvw

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     @Gargron https://buybestbedsheets.shop/manage.php?gem_id=393&ocm_id=e3c29bd3-1d95-11ef-a697-e3c2ded8

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     yhukeee986 (yhukeee986@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Nov-2024 21:11:01 JST yhukeee986

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     @Gargron https://tophomewarranty.online/manage.php?gem_id=388&ocm_id=e3c29bd3-1d95-11ef-a697-e3c2ded8

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     gijkbvtbmmp456 (gijkbvtbmmp456@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Nov-2024 21:38:45 JST gijkbvtbmmp456

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     @Gargron https://tophomewarranty.online/manage.php?gem_id=388&ocm_id=e3c29bd3-1d95-11ef-a697-e3c2ded8

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     Stefan Urbat (stefan_urbat@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Nov-2024 22:02:24 JST Stefan Urbat

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     @Gargron yes, BlueSky seems doomed now to be honest

     Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 likes this.
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     James Veitch (veitch@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Nov-2024 22:47:10 JST James Veitch

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     @Gargron my thoughts exactly. More of this please. Let’s try and scoop out at least some of the firmament that allowed this to happen

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     AFiveDayStorm (afivedaystorm@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Nov-2024 22:57:40 JST AFiveDayStorm

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     @Gargron Agreed! Glad I fully made the move to be federated.

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     Isaiah Nathanael (sprybear@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Nov-2024 23:02:53 JST Isaiah Nathanael

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     @Gargron indeed!

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     Toni Aittoniemi (gimulnautti@mastodon.green)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Nov-2024 23:06:16 JST Toni Aittoniemi

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     @Gargron 100% agree. US stands a good chance of becoming much more oligarchic under Trump, with politics starting to seep into how the company leaders operate.

     They won’t call it that obviously, because they’ll be oblivious to it. But politics it will be regardless.

     They’ll call it business, but it will be politics agreed to in back rooms instead of government corridors.

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     Tim Chambers (tchambers@indieweb.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Nov-2024 23:07:41 JST Tim Chambers

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     @Gargron You aren't wrong.

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     EarthMomma (lanaehforaday@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Nov-2024 23:13:49 JST EarthMomma

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     @Gargron

     I think it's going to be more important than ever that HUMANS are not centrally operated out of the US unlike almost every other social media platform out there.

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     B-Sizzle :mastodon: (josephwelch@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Nov-2024 23:29:11 JST B-Sizzle :mastodon:

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     @Gargron invest in a VPN. You might need it.

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     inquiline (inquiline@assemblag.es)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Nov-2024 23:35:48 JST inquiline

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     @Gargron However, and I mean this respectfully, maybe you should prioritize safety features for racialized and minoritized people now?

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     Charles U. Farley (freakazoid@retro.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Nov-2024 23:35:53 JST Charles U. Farley

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     @Gargron Glad to hear you're gonna stop accepting new registrations on your centrally administered mega-instances.

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     stavpup (stavpup@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Nov-2024 23:50:08 JST stavpup

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     @Gargron the syntax does not make sense.

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     Martin Be (martinbe@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 07-Nov-2024 00:24:03 JST Martin Be

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     @Gargron What difference does it makes if the private messages here aren't still encrypted and can be accessed by the 3-letter US organizations as they wish even without your knowledge?
     They can harvest anything, any data about anyone they want from here and we all know exactly that something like this is possible. The weakest link is always the human. And if your moderators can read them, so can anyone else. Accidentally and on purpose. Even forcefully. That's pretty obvious. So.. you know.

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     vlakicas (vlakicas@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 07-Nov-2024 00:26:33 JST vlakicas

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     @Gargron In US the answer is only US $. ✍️

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     sahilrajput03 (sahilrajput03@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 07-Nov-2024 01:49:37 JST sahilrajput03

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     @Gargron cool.

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     GG (grumpygrannyquilts@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 07-Nov-2024 02:01:59 JST GG

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     @Gargron 💯💯💯

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     Ffrdghdidi (ffrdghdidi@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 07-Nov-2024 03:10:40 JST Ffrdghdidi

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     @Gargron https://tinyurl.com/cx3mustafaanuitise

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     martin lentink 🇪🇺 🇺🇦 (martinlentink@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 07-Nov-2024 03:52:31 JST martin lentink 🇪🇺 🇺🇦

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     @Gargron This.

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     btkrth (beatekurth@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 07-Nov-2024 03:54:01 JST btkrth

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     @Gargron :blobmiou:

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     mhoye (mhoye@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 07-Nov-2024 04:03:33 JST mhoye

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     @Gargron While I agree with this, it might also be time to move the work prioritizing federated safety and collective protection to the front of the queue.

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     AppleWoi (applewoi@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 07-Nov-2024 06:53:19 JST AppleWoi

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     @Gargron

     THIS!!!

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     Stéphane Bortzmeyer (bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr)'s status on Thursday, 07-Nov-2024 12:59:04 JST Stéphane Bortzmeyer

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     @Gargron vKontakte? :-)

     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: and Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 like this.
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     argumento :socialiststar: (argumento@hispagatos.space)'s status on Thursday, 07-Nov-2024 16:33:11 JST argumento :socialiststar:

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     @Gargron Maybe stop blocking and shadowbanning pro-Palestine accounts. Oh, that's right, you can't read this because I'm blocked from being read on mastodon dot social. You pompous, self-aggrandizing nerd.

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     cultdev (cultdev@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 07-Nov-2024 18:33:10 JST cultdev

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     @Gargron love you people. i’m gonna hop on the patreon this week 👍

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     Matthias Pfefferle (pfefferle@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 07-Nov-2024 23:35:59 JST Matthias Pfefferle

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     @Gargron sad but true!

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     Simon (hejsimon@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 08-Nov-2024 06:12:43 JST Simon

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     @Gargron is Germany really better these days? 🤔

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     OpenSoul ✅ (opensoul@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 08-Nov-2024 06:29:52 JST OpenSoul ✅

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     @Gargron I agree

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     MathiasTCK (mathiastck@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 09-Nov-2024 06:16:41 JST MathiasTCK

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     • Parade du Grotesque 💀

     @Gargron @ParadeGrotesque I bet they are trying to read something from threads.net fediverse integration.

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     Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Jan-2025 03:01:54 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧

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     @Gargron how many fediverse users are on a US-based instance vs. not-US-based *including the MITM-as-service layer*? With threads / AWS / cloudflare that number will be very high
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     Aurochs (aurochs@todon.eu)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Jan-2025 03:03:44 JST Aurochs

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     @Gargron But mastodon inc is registered in the USA, ain't it?

     Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 likes this.
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     LiquidParasyte (liquidparasyte@pawb.fun)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Jan-2025 03:04:23 JST LiquidParasyte

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     @Gargron please, please, please work with your peers in the Fediverse software space to prioritize nomadic identity migration and instance/domain migration

     Being able to move to a new instance while retaining the post history is going to be crucial in the coming times.

     Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 likes this.