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lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Saturday, 02-Nov-2024 19:16:30 JST lainy

i have no idea how anyone can read this supposed chronoogy and think that this actually happened: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Third_Wave_(experiment)

Turns out you can solve any discipline problems in the classroom by just telling kinds to sit straight and to do a cool hand sign.
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  The Third Wave (experiment)
  
  The Third Wave was an experimental movement created by the high school history teacher Ron Jones in 1967 to explain how the German population could have accepted the actions of the Nazi regime during the rise of the Third Reich and the Second World War. While Jones taught his students about Nazi Germany during his senior level Contemporary World History class, Jones found it difficult to explain how the German people could have accepted the actions of the Nazis. He decided to create a fictional social movement as a demonstration of the appeal of fascism. Over the course of five days (or nine, according to student Sherry Toulsey), Jones, a member of the Students for a Democratic Society (SDS), Cubberley United Student Movement sponsor and Black Panthers supporter, conducted a series of exercises in his classroom emphasizing discipline and community, intended to model certain characteristics of the Nazi movement. As the movement grew outside his class and began to number in the hundreds, the experiment had spiralled out of control. He convinced the students to attend a rally where he claimed that the classroom project was part of a nationwide movement and that...
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  Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 02-Nov-2024 19:19:31 JST Blurry Moon
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  @lain this always had big "and then everybody stood up and clapped" vibes
  
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  lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Saturday, 02-Nov-2024 19:20:11 JST lainy
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  @sun and this was supposed to have happened in palo alto in the late sixties, too
  
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  Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 02-Nov-2024 19:21:06 JST Blurry Moon
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  @lain this is one of those things that is written to confirm shitlib biases
  
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  lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Saturday, 02-Nov-2024 19:21:45 JST lainy
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  @sun donald trump should have read this, he could have had the whole country being fascist in 5 days
  
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  (unposting) (unspeaker@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 02-Nov-2024 19:25:04 JST (unposting)
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  @lain considering it was in california in 1967 i would absolutely not be surprised if it worked on them
  
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  Paradox (paradox@raru.re)'s status on Saturday, 02-Nov-2024 19:29:07 JST Paradox
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  I dunno, some people are dumb and will do any random thing as long as it doesn't affect them too much.
  Part of why this works is how gradual he was. If he went full force immediately, some people would make a fuss and probably would be enough community about it to not take.
  Another part is community force. Even if you're dissatisfied, you're more likely to conform if everybody else is, because if you don't, now you're the odd one out, and everybody is looking at you. Plus you don't know who feels the same, it's risky to find out, and they'll stand by silent as you get taken away because they only know they feel sorry for you, not who else does. There's no coordination, just rule by fear. Especially that bit about telling students to rat each other out. Now there's no trust between them at all.
  
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  ⚡Lord of Misrule⚡ (toiletpaper@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 02-Nov-2024 20:18:37 JST ⚡Lord of Misrule⚡
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  Had to watch this movie about it in highschool. Honestly, having a little personal experience with cults of various sorts, and how impressionable kids are, I don't doubt it happened.
  
  https://youtu.be/4qlBC45jk3I
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    Re-creates the classroom experiment in which a high-school teacher formed his own "Reich" to show why the German people could so willingly endorse Nazism.
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  Also, didn't we just experience ~50%+ of the human population in developed countries do this exact same thing overnight? If it was over getting jabbed, it was over virtue signalling about 🇺🇦, or Q, and the list goes on.
  
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