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   Michael Downey 🇺🇳 (downey@floss.social)'s status on Friday, 01-Nov-2024 05:22:08 JST Michael Downey 🇺🇳

   • Software Freedom Conservancy

   Software Freedom @conservancy: "Open Source AI Definition Erodes the Meaning of 'Open Source'"

   "With this announcement, we have reached the moment that software freedom advocates have feared for decades: the definition of “open source” — with which OSI was entrusted — now differs in significant ways from the views of most software freedom advocates."

   https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2024/oct/31/open-source-ai-definition-osaid-erodes-foss/

   #OpenSource #FreeSoftware #OpenSourceAI #AI #OSI #OSAID

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     Esther Payne :bisexual_flag: (onepict@chaos.social)'s status on Friday, 01-Nov-2024 05:51:37 JST Esther Payne :bisexual_flag:

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     @downey @conservancy

     " The concept was explored and discussed publicly (under the moniker “Free Software”) for decades before it was officially “defined”. The OSI announced itself as the “marketing department for Free Software” "

     Much as it saddens me, I think the first step in this road was that initial announcement calling itself the marketing department for Free Software.

     I always considered the OSI as custodians of the OSI definition. How naive of me.

     #OSAID #FLOSS

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     Rachel Rawlings (linuxandyarn@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 01-Nov-2024 05:53:32 JST Rachel Rawlings

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     @downey @conservancy I was at the first OSCon when Tim O'Reilly explained--not in these exact words--that the term "Open Source" was invented to be more business-friendly than "Free/Libre Software" so it doesn't surprise me to see it watered down further.

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     Esther Payne :bisexual_flag: (onepict@chaos.social)'s status on Friday, 01-Nov-2024 06:04:43 JST Esther Payne :bisexual_flag:

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     • Open Source Initiative :osi:

     @downey @conservancy So we should not really be surprised that @osi are pushing this non open definition.

     I refuse the argument that means the existing applications/platforms couldn't be certified as open.

     If any part of them aren't available for us to study, share, modify, redistribute or the other parts of the definition, it should not be considered open. This is where we should draw the line. I'm honestly disappointed in the OSI. They are eroding the definition.

     https://opensource.org/osd

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     Michael Downey 🇺🇳 (downey@floss.social)'s status on Friday, 01-Nov-2024 07:40:22 JST Michael Downey 🇺🇳

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     • Esther Payne :bisexual_flag:

     @onepict Somewhere (LWN?) I saw that there's a group forming of those willing to build something better than OSI:

     https://opensourcedeclaration.org/index-en-us.html

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     Esther Payne :bisexual_flag: (onepict@chaos.social)'s status on Friday, 01-Nov-2024 07:40:24 JST Esther Payne :bisexual_flag:

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     @downey yeah well that legacy is trashed now.

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     Michael Downey 🇺🇳 (downey@floss.social)'s status on Friday, 01-Nov-2024 07:40:25 JST Michael Downey 🇺🇳

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     • Esther Payne :bisexual_flag:

     @onepict The only thing that makes OSI de facto stewards of anything is the community legitimacy they used to have.