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feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 06:10:12 JST feld Honest headline:
Supreme Court Rules 1,600 non-Citizens That Should Have Not Been Registered To Vote Can Be Removed From Virginia's Voter Rolls Even During The 90 Day Quiet Period-
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SouprMatt (mls14@social.vivaldi.net)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 11:28:26 JST SouprMatt @feld This is a blatant lie. You know it is because you were told in other posts. Disinformation is not welcome in the fediverse, so fair warning: this will be reported.
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feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 11:28:26 JST feld @mls14 Is Reuters reporting disinformation now? lol
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-supreme-court-revives-virginias-voter-roll-purge-1600-purported-noncitizens-2024-10-30/ -
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feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 11:33:44 JST feld @mls14 "According to people not providing us with evidence yet"
Again, *if* this is true these 18 people can register same day as voting. The other 1582-ish cannot because they're not citizens.
They can still vote. If Virginia didn't allow same day registration I'd agree it's a bad move to allow this within the 90 day quiet period.
Also go do something useful with your life like volunteering to be a poll worker instead of being an annoying useless internet poster -
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SouprMatt (mls14@social.vivaldi.net)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 11:33:46 JST SouprMatt @feld Here’s a quote from that article: “At least 18 U.S. citizens were wrongly scrubbed from the voter rolls since the new policy took effect, according to voting rights groups including the League of Women Voters of Virginia that filed a lawsuit on Oct. 7 in federal court challenging the purge.‘ Refusing to read the article does not excuse you from spreading lies.
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feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 12:07:46 JST feld @mls14 But there isn't proof provided, only an attestation by "voting rights groups including the League of Women Voters of Virginia".
I'm looking through all their legal documents and I can't find them providing any names of people who shouldn't have been removed but it could be in a PACER-only document.
Wouldn't they have presented that to the court?
And why wouldn't the news be broadcasting all their names and photos doing stories about these Americans? They seem awfully invisible.
You should be a little suspicious its hard to get their names
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69234255/virginia-coalition-for-immigrant-rights-v-beals/ -
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SouprMatt (mls14@social.vivaldi.net)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 12:07:47 JST SouprMatt @feld Election disinformation is a serious problem. I take it seriously and I’m calling it out wherever it appears. Everybody that reads your post now knows that it’s false, and they can read the linked article for proof.
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SouprMatt (mls14@social.vivaldi.net)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 12:52:50 JST SouprMatt @feld You are either truly dedicated to spreading a lie, or just really bad at reading. In the initial court filing you linked, you can see why the names of disenfranchised voters aren’t available. The state of Virginia hasn’t released the info, which the plaintiffs point out. Read the first document in the docket, section 30.
I am suspicious not of people trying to protect their rights, but of somebody dedicated to spreading mistruths. What motivation is there for your campaign of disinformation? Paid by Trump’s campaign or a PAC perhaps? Please let us know. Thanks.
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feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 12:52:50 JST feld @mls14 if the State of Virginia has not released the names of those purged how do we know there are 18 or more citizens who were purged? -
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SouprMatt (mls14@social.vivaldi.net)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 13:07:06 JST SouprMatt @feld I found lots of answers to all these questions just by reading the case. I recommend you do the same, because you are just digging yourself deeper and deeper.
Some people reported their situation to plaintiff(s) in the case. At least one went public, talking to NPR.
You claim that there are no names of affected parties in the court documents. That’s wrong, I’m looking at 2 right now.
The defendants refused to release info. So it became the job of the plaintiffs to try and find affected people. They managed to find a few, and provided that evidence in the case… But there is little doubt there are many more affected who either weren’t found, or didn’t want to come forward.
Seriously, try actually reading instead of starting with a preconceived notion and sticking to it no matter how much evidence is presented to you.
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feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 13:07:06 JST feld @mls14 Paste me the names. Screenshot them. Link me the document. You really could have just done that.
So in summary, there are people, but they don't want anyone to know they exist and they don't want to join the case; the voting rights groups are disadvantaged because they don't have the list of names so they can go fishing for more possible defendants.
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SouprMatt (mls14@social.vivaldi.net)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 13:10:23 JST SouprMatt @feld YOU posted the link to the court docket. Go to your own link and actually READ it. Are you too lazy to do so? You would rather make false assertions instead of reading the information at a link YOU provided. Wow.
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feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 13:10:23 JST feld @mls14 Yeah it's not fun to read PDFs on mobile just link me the proof if you have it -
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feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 13:14:32 JST feld @mls14 Buddy why are you being so evasive just share it with me so I can share it with everyone I know and we can fight back against this together -
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SouprMatt (mls14@social.vivaldi.net)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 13:14:33 JST SouprMatt @feld Why would you post a link and not actually read the information at that link? You are making a LOT of assertions despite not having even a fraction of the facts correct.
If you make assertions, and present links claiming that they back you up… it’s not anybody else’s job to screenshot your own sources for you. Be an adult and read before you link to something. Or just be proven wrong by posting links you didn’t bother to read thoroughly. Which seems to be what you’re happy to keep doing,
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feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 13:25:18 JST feld @mls14 that's what I thought, you've been bullshitting this whole time. -
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SouprMatt (mls14@social.vivaldi.net)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 13:25:19 JST SouprMatt @feld ok here’s a link https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69234255/virginia-coalition-for-immigrant-rights-v-beals/
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