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   kline 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 (kline@mastodon.sdf.org)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Oct-2024 14:36:54 JST kline 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

   • nytpu

   @nytpu you shouldn't need to take positive action to prevent your language system from punishing you for simple mistakes.

   My car doesn't explode if I stall it.

   The fact that this keeps happening is evidence in itself that the available "solutions" aren't effective

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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Oct-2024 14:36:54 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     • nytpu
     @kline @nytpu True but at the same time it's the kind of thing you can easily lint for with even just grep and there isn't that many languages out there where running commands including with error handling works well and that's typically what you need for most CI/CD kind of stuff.
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Oct-2024 16:15:34 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     • Wolf480pl
     • nytpu
     @wolf480pl @kline @nytpu Yeah tried few times but it's quite hard to design a new language, specially without prior experience doing that and not much modern shells around to get inspiration and hindsight from.
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     Wolf480pl (wolf480pl@mstdn.io)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Oct-2024 16:15:35 JST Wolf480pl

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     • nytpu

     @lanodan @kline @nytpu i think we need a new language

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     kline 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 (kline@mastodon.sdf.org)'s status on Wednesday, 30-Oct-2024 00:28:36 JST kline 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

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     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
     • nytpu

     @lanodan @nytpu if everyday you stub your toe on a step that's a bit too high, you can put up a sign saying "wonky step" or you can fix the stairs.

     It's been a long time where we've put various signs, mitigations, linters, and we're still stumbling on a badly made step.

     We need to fix/replace. Yes, it'll be hard work and a lot to do, but better now than in the future when there's even more that needs done.

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