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   Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 24-Oct-2024 22:04:09 JST Fish of Rage
   so yes it appears that Wine runs everything in WOW64 which means I guess some 32-bit Windows software will never run until that's fixed.
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     Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 24-Oct-2024 22:05:21 JST Fish of Rage

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     • meeper
     @meeper I found people saying that it just doesn't work. The bottle I made is 32-bit Windows XP.
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     meeper@mai.waifuism.life's status on Thursday, 24-Oct-2024 22:05:23 JST meeper

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     @sun@shitposter.world can't you make a 32bit wineprefix for them?

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     Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 24-Oct-2024 22:06:49 JST Fish of Rage

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     • Zergling_man
     @Zergling_man I'm using crossover on mac, no clue how to do that or if it's supported.
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     Zergling_man (zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith)'s status on Thursday, 24-Oct-2024 22:06:50 JST Zergling_man

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     @sun You can forcibly make a 32-bit prefix with WINEARCH=x86 (I think), and you should only need to specify that when creating the prefix.
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     Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 24-Oct-2024 22:08:45 JST Fish of Rage

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     • Zergling_man
     @Zergling_man you don't want to know the agonizing process of starting a macos program with environment variables set, it is an agonizing process.
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     Zergling_man (zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith)'s status on Thursday, 24-Oct-2024 22:08:46 JST Zergling_man

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     gl lol
     
     Can you coerce it into running a program from CLI? If so, try throwing WINEPREFIX/WINEARCH arguments into it and see what happens.
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     Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 24-Oct-2024 22:12:10 JST Fish of Rage

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     • Asa
     @asa I am emulating and it works there.
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     Asa (asa@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 24-Oct-2024 22:12:11 JST Asa

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     @sun just virtualize, WINE doesn’t work most of the time and when it does it works badly
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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Thursday, 24-Oct-2024 22:14:40 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     @sun WINE_ARCH or whatever it is to use 32bit prefix
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     Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 24-Oct-2024 22:16:42 JST Fish of Rage

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     • narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:
     @hj tried it, must not work on crossover mac
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 24-Oct-2024 22:23:57 JST 翠星石

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     @sun Why are you throwing away your freedom?
     
     Pretty much, 32bit support in WINE Is Not an Emulator is dependent on 32bit versions of all of WINE's dependencies being installed.
     
     WINE wants to go pure 64bit while also supporting 32bit, but the process isn't done yet.
     
     
     Other than notepad++, I don't see any windows software that is worth running even if you don't care about freedom.
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     Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 24-Oct-2024 22:25:27 JST Fish of Rage

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     • 翠星石
     @Suiseiseki there is no software worth a damn that supports cmyk is what sent me on this mission.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 24-Oct-2024 22:28:30 JST 翠星石

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     @sun I'm not sure if you really need CMYK, as most print shops will just print sRGB files and not give a damn.
     
     Both GIMP and Krita have limited CMYK support and that support is only improving and both of those are priceless.
     
     It's proprietary malware that isn't worth a damn.
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     Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 24-Oct-2024 22:29:31 JST Fish of Rage

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     @Suiseiseki i care about correct colors in this case.
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     hazlin no plap pirate (hazlin@shortstacksran.ch)'s status on Thursday, 24-Oct-2024 22:30:52 JST hazlin no plap pirate

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     @Suiseiseki @sun
     for printers that will only accept CMYK and Photoshop files, you can open your PNG in krita, change to CYMK and export as a photoshop file.
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     Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 24-Oct-2024 22:30:52 JST Fish of Rage

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     • hazlin no plap pirate
     @hazlin @Suiseiseki its just a pain because when colors go out of gamut you have to deal with it by hand.
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     Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 24-Oct-2024 22:31:24 JST Fish of Rage

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     • hazlin no plap pirate
     @hazlin @Suiseiseki specifically i am using a cmyk psd template provided by the print shop.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 24-Oct-2024 22:34:31 JST 翠星石

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     @sun I suggest sending the template file to Krita and in about 2 years someone should get around to supporting that and then everyone will win.
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     hazlin no plap pirate (hazlin@shortstacksran.ch)'s status on Thursday, 24-Oct-2024 22:36:15 JST hazlin no plap pirate

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     @sun @Suiseiseki
     hmm, for Krita, is auto shifts to closest. Then, it really does matter how good a printer is. A good one I worked with, usually output looking like what I designed in RGB.
     
     Did have one that was... way off. But, this could be accounted for, by taking a photo of theirs and a better print. And, then linearly shifting the whole image to offset the difference.
     
     Ended up with prints that looked just right in the end xD
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     Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 24-Oct-2024 22:37:21 JST Fish of Rage

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     • hazlin no plap pirate
     @hazlin @Suiseiseki i dislike how professionalism in print work has regressed considerably from the 1990s when everyone understood color.
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     hazlin no plap pirate (hazlin@shortstacksran.ch)'s status on Thursday, 24-Oct-2024 22:46:18 JST hazlin no plap pirate

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     @sun @Suiseiseki
     Yeah, the quality distribution has been very non-linear.
     
     And, if you want someone to handle the details for you, it takes 20x the cost.
     
     As a result, it is, somehow worth the effort to be an expert in printing, do 90% of the related work yourself, and pay one or two intermediaries to pass the completed work to the printer, and pass it back to you xD (gate keeping services behind distributors is, retarded)
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     Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 24-Oct-2024 22:47:38 JST Fish of Rage

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     • hazlin no plap pirate
     @hazlin @Suiseiseki there are a lot of print shops, most in fact, that don't do cmyk at all, they only understand rgb and don't know about monitor and printer color profiles and can't tell when color is wrong.
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     :ihavenomouth: (inginsub@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Thursday, 24-Oct-2024 22:54:40 JST :ihavenomouth:

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     • hazlin no plap pirate
     @hazlin @Suiseiseki @sun some places let you select the paper type and it's up to you to select/find/buy the correct color profile
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     hazlin no plap pirate (hazlin@shortstacksran.ch)'s status on Thursday, 24-Oct-2024 22:54:41 JST hazlin no plap pirate

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     @sun @Suiseiseki
     Even if you give them CMYK, it still may not look right. I honestly just, don't think they care.
     
     Some places just, require an iterative processes, of test prints, and adjusting what you give them.
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     Store-Brand Pikachu (pcachu@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 24-Oct-2024 22:56:15 JST Store-Brand Pikachu

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     • hazlin no plap pirate
     @sun @hazlin @Suiseiseki when an entire industry turns into the "You Had One Job" meme
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