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anemone@ebiverse.social's status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 04:32:25 JST anemone
@mischievoustomato@mitra.taihou.website @EvilSandmich@poa.st @arcana@fedi.layer02.net @Will2Power@poa.st @georgia@netzsphaere.xyz @Diceyocean@annihilation.social holocaust denial is genuinely retarded but it's disgusting how zionists monopolize the holocaust and use it to justify their own atrocities

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  georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 04:32:24 JST georgia
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  @anemone @Will2Power @EvilSandmich @arcana @mischievoustomato @Diceyocean what does monopolize The Holocaust mean? Jews were the primary victims of Nazi genocidal infrastructure. Theres nothing to "monopolize".
  
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  georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 04:44:04 JST georgia
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  @anemone @Will2Power @EvilSandmich @arcana @mischievoustomato @Diceyocean most estimates of victims in the 11 million expanded definition of the Holocaust count Soviet POWs (who arent a people but it is a reflection of hatred for Slavs), the disabled in Aktion T4, and the victims of the Pojramos, along with the relatively small number of victims who were gay etc. Among those the only ethnic groups and thereby the only peoples who can be said to be "intentionally eliminated in whole or in part (definition of genocide)" are Jews and Gypsies. Regardless, the genocidal infrastructure of the Holocaust built in Nazi occupied Europe particularly Poland was built with the intent to exterminate Jews, and Nazi leadership only expressed the official intention to exterminate the Jewish people. There is no "monopolization" and by conflating the victims of warfare albeit cruel warfare with the victims of the worst genocide in history with its killing on an industrial scale you are trivializing the Holocaust which is kindred to denying it. You can hate the state of Israel without saying things like "christian soviets were more victims of the Nazis than Jews were" which you imply.
  
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  anemone@ebiverse.social's status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 04:44:05 JST anemone
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  @georgia@netzsphaere.xyz @Will2Power@poa.st @EvilSandmich@poa.st @arcana@fedi.layer02.net @mischievoustomato@mitra.taihou.website @Diceyocean@annihilation.social there were also millions of non-jewish victims, nearly as many as there were jewish by some accounts and the holocaust isn't the only atrocity in WW2. The Russian civilian death toll far outstrips the total (jewish and non-jewish) death toll of the holocaust
  
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  georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 04:57:33 JST georgia
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  @anemone @Will2Power @EvilSandmich @arcana @mischievoustomato @Diceyocean you can include whatever numbers you want, that doesnt mean that victims of war are victims of genocide
  
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  anemone@ebiverse.social's status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 04:57:34 JST anemone
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  @georgia@netzsphaere.xyz @Will2Power@poa.st @EvilSandmich@poa.st @arcana@fedi.layer02.net @mischievoustomato@mitra.taihou.website @Diceyocean@annihilation.social half the polish victims of the holocaust were gentiles. I don't dispute that Jews were the primary target of the nazis but they weren't the only victims by any stretch. Also the 17-20 million figure for russia was civillians. If you include russian military and pows the death roll was 27-30 million
  
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  georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 05:00:56 JST georgia
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  @anemone @Will2Power @EvilSandmich @arcana @mischievoustomato @Diceyocean you can argue that but its not mainstream, and still the proportionality of death toll and by means it doesnt compare to the Nazi genocide of the Jews
  
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  anemone@ebiverse.social's status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 05:00:57 JST anemone
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  @georgia@netzsphaere.xyz @Will2Power@poa.st @EvilSandmich@poa.st @arcana@fedi.layer02.net @mischievoustomato@mitra.taihou.website @Diceyocean@annihilation.social The killing of slavic peoples arguably was
  
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  anemone@ebiverse.social's status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 05:08:37 JST anemone
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  @georgia@netzsphaere.xyz @Will2Power@poa.st @EvilSandmich@poa.st @arcana@fedi.layer02.net @mischievoustomato@mitra.taihou.website @Diceyocean@annihilation.social I don't see how that really matters in regards to the rhetoric used to justify the state of israel which is my entire point
  
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  georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 05:08:37 JST georgia
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  @anemone @Will2Power @EvilSandmich @arcana @mischievoustomato @Diceyocean you don't even believe Jews are a distinct ethnic group so why would you think they deserve a state regardless of rhetoric used to justify it?
  
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  georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 05:09:31 JST georgia
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  @anemone @Will2Power @EvilSandmich @arcana @mischievoustomato @Diceyocean I believe every stateless people deserves a state.
  
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  anemone@ebiverse.social's status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 05:09:32 JST anemone
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  @georgia@netzsphaere.xyz @Will2Power@poa.st @EvilSandmich@poa.st @arcana@fedi.layer02.net @mischievoustomato@mitra.taihou.website @Diceyocean@annihilation.social no ethnic group deserves a state lol
  
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  georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 05:11:47 JST georgia
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  @anemone @Will2Power @EvilSandmich @arcana @mischievoustomato @Diceyocean most states are ethnostates-- states with a dominant people with that peoples culture and language being the mainstream culture and language. Every state in Europe is like this. Yet this is denied of the Jewish people.
  
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  anemone@ebiverse.social's status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 05:11:48 JST anemone
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  @georgia@netzsphaere.xyz @Will2Power@poa.st @EvilSandmich@poa.st @arcana@fedi.layer02.net @mischievoustomato@mitra.taihou.website @Diceyocean@annihilation.social ethnostates are a terrible fucking idea, in fact!
  
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  anemone@ebiverse.social's status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 05:12:39 JST anemone
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  @georgia@netzsphaere.xyz @Will2Power@poa.st @EvilSandmich@poa.st @arcana@fedi.layer02.net @mischievoustomato@mitra.taihou.website @Diceyocean@annihilation.social most jews are not stateless
  
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  georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 05:12:39 JST georgia
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  @anemone @Will2Power @EvilSandmich @arcana @mischievoustomato @Diceyocean thats not what stateless people means. most Kurds live in Iraq, Turkey, Syria, and Iran, yet they are still a stateless people.
  
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  anemone@ebiverse.social's status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 05:16:49 JST anemone
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  @georgia@netzsphaere.xyz @Will2Power@poa.st @EvilSandmich@poa.st @arcana@fedi.layer02.net @mischievoustomato@mitra.taihou.website @Diceyocean@annihilation.social again, ethnostates are a terrible idea and something humanity should be moving away from, not creating more of
  
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  georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 05:16:49 JST georgia
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  @anemone @Will2Power @EvilSandmich @arcana @mischievoustomato @Diceyocean separate peoples won't cease to exist when their states do. thats a utopian pipedream. but its interesting that you don't support a Palestinian state, which would be an ethnostate-- because the PLO defines a Palestinian as any Arab who lived in Palestine two years before 1948 or their decedents.
  
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  georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 05:18:37 JST georgia
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  @anemone @Will2Power @EvilSandmich @arcana @mischievoustomato @Diceyocean whatever you say!
  
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  anemone@ebiverse.social's status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 05:18:38 JST anemone
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  @georgia@netzsphaere.xyz @Will2Power@poa.st @EvilSandmich@poa.st @arcana@fedi.layer02.net @mischievoustomato@mitra.taihou.website @Diceyocean@annihilation.social I'm not a "two state solution" promoter, no
  
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  anemone@ebiverse.social's status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 05:19:52 JST anemone
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  @georgia@netzsphaere.xyz @Will2Power@poa.st @EvilSandmich@poa.st @arcana@fedi.layer02.net @mischievoustomato@mitra.taihou.website @Diceyocean@annihilation.social not practical anyway given how crisscrossed with israeli settlements the west bank is
  
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  georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 05:19:52 JST georgia
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  @anemone @Will2Power @EvilSandmich @arcana @mischievoustomato @Diceyocean thats why the settlements should be dismantled in exchange for peace imo
  
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  Erythronet Node 7̶w̴f̷-̴A̷9̵-̵C̸.̵9̴.̷9̴ (unmind@social.xenofem.me)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 05:19:56 JST Erythronet Node 7̶w̴f̷-̴A̷9̵-̵C̸.̵9̴.̷9̴
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  @georgia @Diceyocean @anemone @arcana @mischievoustomato this isn't true actually, the nation states of europe used to have hundreds of ethnic groups that were flattened or culturally wiped out in the interest of forging new national identities
  
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  georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 05:26:27 JST georgia
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  @unmind @Diceyocean @anemone @arcana @mischievoustomato The Jewish community in Israel is the only non-ultra Orthodox thriving Jewish community in the world. Just look at the US- Jews are assimilating into the background liberal culture and abandon Judaism after the age of 13. Plus, all those traditions you mentioned largely still exist within Israel, though many intermarry within the separate Jewish ethnic groups.
  
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  Erythronet Node 7̶w̴f̷-̴A̷9̵-̵C̸.̵9̴.̷9̴ (unmind@social.xenofem.me)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 05:26:28 JST Erythronet Node 7̶w̴f̷-̴A̷9̵-̵C̸.̵9̴.̷9̴
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  @georgia @Diceyocean @anemone @arcana @mischievoustomato this also happened with the plurality of jewish cultures/traditions that were eradicated in the interest of israeli nationalism and so idk the state of israel has been a disaster for jewish culture even beyond just the stain of genocide and colonialism imo
  
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  georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 06:25:20 JST georgia
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  @teratology @Diceyocean @anemone @arcana @mischievoustomato @EvilSandmich @Will2Power this is just leftist historiography I really have no interest in non mainstream definitions of genocide like those who call the Gaza war genocide.
  
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  cipote :bishrexual: (teratology@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 06:25:21 JST cipote :bishrexual:
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  @georgia @Diceyocean @anemone @arcana @mischievoustomato @EvilSandmich @Will2Power there's another the ongoing genocide of Indigenous people all over the occupied "civilized" west, including the time Israel helped U.S.A genocide Maya people. Israel has no right to use the holocaust to deflect from it's participation in multiple genocides.
  
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  anemone@ebiverse.social's status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 06:34:32 JST anemone
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  @georgia@netzsphaere.xyz @teratology@the.asbestos.cafe @Diceyocean@annihilation.social @arcana@fedi.layer02.net @mischievoustomato@mitra.taihou.website @EvilSandmich@poa.st @Will2Power@poa.st plenty of mainstream sources have called what's happening in gaza a genocide, despite US and Israeli propaganda. This is willful ignorance at best
  
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  georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 06:34:32 JST georgia
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  @anemone @teratology @Will2Power @EvilSandmich @arcana @mischievoustomato @Diceyocean genocide requires intent to exterminate a population, and 40,000 out of millions is not genocide scale either.
  
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  georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 07:04:05 JST georgia
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  @anemone @teratology @Will2Power @EvilSandmich @arcana @mischievoustomato @Diceyocean first off, youre trusting the Hamas-run Gaza Health Ministry with these numbers, secondly and more importantly, if the Gaza war is a genocide because of the hyperbolic statements of a few Israeli politicians, so was the Iraq war, and more notably, so was the Oct 7th massacre, because Hamas's charter contains an injunction to literally kill all Jews. I'll be convinced that Israel is engaging in a genocide if a fair international trial finds so, but I don't think it will.
  
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  anemone@ebiverse.social's status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 07:04:06 JST anemone
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  @georgia@netzsphaere.xyz @teratology@the.asbestos.cafe @Will2Power@poa.st @EvilSandmich@poa.st @arcana@fedi.layer02.net @mischievoustomato@mitra.taihou.website @Diceyocean@annihilation.social genocidal intent has been established by numerous israeli government and military officials. Genocide isn't about scale but estimates put the gaza death toll at around 180,000, the 40,000 figure is only recovered and identified corpses
  
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  georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 07:15:12 JST georgia
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  @anemone @teratology @Will2Power @EvilSandmich @arcana @mischievoustomato @Diceyocean that's not at all what I meant by fair but you do you.
  
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  anemone@ebiverse.social's status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 07:15:13 JST anemone
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  @georgia@netzsphaere.xyz @teratology@the.asbestos.cafe @Will2Power@poa.st @EvilSandmich@poa.st @arcana@fedi.layer02.net @mischievoustomato@mitra.taihou.website @Diceyocean@annihilation.social the figure you gave is from the gaza health ministry. The 180,000 figure is from the lancet.
  
  Israels actions in gaza have 70-90% civillian (e.g. not hamas) casualties, including 10s of thousands of literal children. Furthermore Hamas only had power in gaza because of israeli support after they crushed previous secular rebellions.
  
  also lol "fair international trial" aka one that sides with israel otherwise it's not "fair" give me a fucking break genocide apologist
  
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  georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 07:17:52 JST georgia
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  @anemone @teratology @Will2Power @EvilSandmich @arcana @mischievoustomato @Diceyocean yes I do. I think Israel has engaged in violations of the principle of proportionality and distinction, which are war crimes.
  
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  anemone@ebiverse.social's status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 07:17:53 JST anemone
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  @georgia@netzsphaere.xyz @teratology@the.asbestos.cafe @Will2Power@poa.st @EvilSandmich@poa.st @arcana@fedi.layer02.net @mischievoustomato@mitra.taihou.website @Diceyocean@annihilation.social what did you mean then? Do you think the International Caucasian Court's arrest warrant for Netanyahu is legitimate?
  
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  anemone@ebiverse.social's status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 07:23:42 JST anemone
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  @georgia@netzsphaere.xyz @teratology@the.asbestos.cafe @Will2Power@poa.st @EvilSandmich@poa.st @arcana@fedi.layer02.net @mischievoustomato@mitra.taihou.website @Diceyocean@annihilation.social and how do you feel about Israel directly disobeying the ICJ's rulling to prevent a genocide in gaza?
  
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  georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 07:23:42 JST georgia
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  @anemone @teratology @Will2Power @EvilSandmich @arcana @mischievoustomato @Diceyocean I just disagree that war crimes ≠ genocide. I think genocide needs to be targeted and not merely result from infrastructure collapse and collateral damage.
  
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  georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 07:29:29 JST georgia
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  @anemone @teratology @Will2Power @EvilSandmich @arcana @mischievoustomato @Diceyocean they were in concentration camps made to kill them, unless you also count every WWII allied starvation death as a victim of genocide. I don't support shutting off food and utilities though.
  
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  anemone@ebiverse.social's status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 07:29:30 JST anemone
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  @georgia@netzsphaere.xyz @teratology@the.asbestos.cafe @Will2Power@poa.st @EvilSandmich@poa.st @arcana@fedi.layer02.net @mischievoustomato@mitra.taihou.website @Diceyocean@annihilation.social Israel directly targets civillians for execution in addition to more "indirect" means of killing them, like cutting off food and water. Do you also consider the people who starved to death in nazi concentration camps to not be victims of genocide because they weren't directly killed?
  
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  georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 07:31:04 JST georgia
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  @anemone @teratology @Will2Power @EvilSandmich @arcana @mischievoustomato @Diceyocean I just haven't seen evidence of any direct targeting of civilians en masse as a matter of policy. most are killed because they were near a military target.
  
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  georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 07:36:17 JST georgia
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  @anemone @teratology @Will2Power @EvilSandmich @arcana @mischievoustomato @Diceyocean or the ones who starved to death in ghettoes that were part of the Holocaust's infrastructure, or in killing fields by the SS, that's how they were killed. We don't count Jews killed in legitimate warfare or in non-Holocaust war crimes against the Soviets as "Holocaust deaths".
  
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  anemone@ebiverse.social's status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 07:36:18 JST anemone
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  @georgia@netzsphaere.xyz @teratology@the.asbestos.cafe @Will2Power@poa.st @EvilSandmich@poa.st @arcana@fedi.layer02.net @mischievoustomato@mitra.taihou.website @Diceyocean@annihilation.social so ONLY the jews killed specifically in the extermination/death camps count then?
  
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  anemone@ebiverse.social's status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 07:37:04 JST anemone
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  @georgia@netzsphaere.xyz @teratology@the.asbestos.cafe @Will2Power@poa.st @EvilSandmich@poa.st @arcana@fedi.layer02.net @mischievoustomato@mitra.taihou.website @Diceyocean@annihilation.social "military targets" such as: refugee tents, hospitals, beaches with children playing on them, ambulances racing to pick up civillian children who had been shot by idf soldiers (i guess 6 year old girls are hamas) which they then provide no credible evidence for being legitimate military targets.
  
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  georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 07:37:04 JST georgia
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  @anemone @teratology @Will2Power @EvilSandmich @arcana @mischievoustomato @Diceyocean they make mistakes sometimes and those are egregious examples, yeah
  
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  anemone@ebiverse.social's status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 07:38:34 JST anemone
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  @georgia@netzsphaere.xyz @teratology@the.asbestos.cafe @Will2Power@poa.st @EvilSandmich@poa.st @arcana@fedi.layer02.net @mischievoustomato@mitra.taihou.website @Diceyocean@annihilation.social so intentional starvation counts when nazis do it but not when israel does it. give me a break
  
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  georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 07:38:34 JST georgia
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  @anemone @teratology @Will2Power @EvilSandmich @arcana @mischievoustomato @Diceyocean literally tell me when Hitler allowed aid convoys and food deliveries into the concentration camps. Israel limits food and utilities but hasn't outright banned them.
  
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  georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 07:39:55 JST georgia
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  @anemone @teratology @Will2Power @EvilSandmich @arcana @mischievoustomato @Diceyocean its a very densely populated area 70-90 percent civilian casualties is not unreasonable.
  
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  anemone@ebiverse.social's status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 07:39:56 JST anemone
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  @georgia@netzsphaere.xyz @teratology@the.asbestos.cafe @Will2Power@poa.st @EvilSandmich@poa.st @arcana@fedi.layer02.net @mischievoustomato@mitra.taihou.website @Diceyocean@annihilation.social so many mistakes that 90% of the people they kill are civillians.
  
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  georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 07:41:08 JST georgia
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  @anemone @teratology @Will2Power @EvilSandmich @arcana @mischievoustomato @Diceyocean if their policy were as you present it all of Gaza would have starved after a year of fighting
  
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  anemone@ebiverse.social's status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 07:41:09 JST anemone
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  @georgia@netzsphaere.xyz @teratology@the.asbestos.cafe @Will2Power@poa.st @EvilSandmich@poa.st @arcana@fedi.layer02.net @mischievoustomato@mitra.taihou.website @Diceyocean@annihilation.social israel literally kills aid workers attempting to deliver food
  
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  georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 07:43:30 JST georgia
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  @anemone @teratology @Will2Power @EvilSandmich @arcana @mischievoustomato @Diceyocean I genuinely think most other countries fighting in the same circumstances would not have performed differently. It seems like you're unfamiliar with the history of warfare, civilian casualties are the norm.
  
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  anemone@ebiverse.social's status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 07:43:31 JST anemone
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  @georgia@netzsphaere.xyz @teratology@the.asbestos.cafe @Will2Power@poa.st @EvilSandmich@poa.st @arcana@fedi.layer02.net @mischievoustomato@mitra.taihou.website @Diceyocean@annihilation.social This is a genuinely deranged thing to say. You should be deeply ashamed to have even thought this, let alone typed it and hit send
  
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  eemmaa (eemmaa@girlboss.gaslight.love)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 07:48:45 JST eemmaa
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  @georgia @Diceyocean @anemone @arcana @mischievoustomato @EvilSandmich @Will2Power @teratology 70% civilian death isn’t normal, especially in modern warfare, unless you are like trying to carpet bomb entire towns(which is out of vogue in modern warfare)
  
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  georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 07:48:45 JST georgia
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  @eemmaa @Diceyocean @anemone @arcana @mischievoustomato @EvilSandmich @Will2Power @teratology 70 percent was the civilian death toll in Iraq
  
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  georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 07:53:03 JST georgia
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  @eemmaa @Diceyocean @anemone @arcana @mischievoustomato @EvilSandmich @Will2Power @teratology that's fair. again I admit Israel has violated the principles of distinction and proportionality, I just think it takes more than that to call something a genocide.
  
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  eemmaa (eemmaa@girlboss.gaslight.love)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 07:53:04 JST eemmaa
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  @georgia @Diceyocean @anemone @arcana @mischievoustomato @EvilSandmich @Will2Power @teratology yes, but that was largely attributed to insurgent groups, and that rate is considered bad
  
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  feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 07:56:31 JST feld
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  @georgia @Diceyocean @anemone @arcana @mischievoustomato @EvilSandmich @Will2Power @teratology did you see where they just killed the people they allowed to go in
  
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  georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 07:59:28 JST georgia
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  @eemmaa @Diceyocean @anemone @arcana @mischievoustomato @EvilSandmich @Will2Power @teratology you're suggesting some genocidal master plan which simply doesn't exist as well as a scale which also doesn't exist. they're overly reactive to terrorism and that's responsible for the "siege" on Gaza which is also implemented by Egypt. I don't support it but comparing it to an extermination camp is hyperbole.
  
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  eemmaa (eemmaa@girlboss.gaslight.love)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 07:59:29 JST eemmaa
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  @georgia @Diceyocean @anemone @arcana @mischievoustomato @EvilSandmich @Will2Power @teratology i mean.. like.. it seems like they have purposefully deprived the Palestinians for a long time, then they moved on to kill them. It feels like early wwII and the move from ghettos -> camps -> death as a third party observer.
  
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  georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 08:06:46 JST georgia
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  @eemmaa @Diceyocean @anemone @arcana @mischievoustomato @EvilSandmich @Will2Power @teratology if a genocidal master plan comes out I'll condemn it. I hate genocide. its the worst crime in the world. I just don't see it everywhere like people on the political fringes.
  
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  eemmaa (eemmaa@girlboss.gaslight.love)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 08:06:47 JST eemmaa
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  @georgia @Diceyocean @anemone @arcana @mischievoustomato @EvilSandmich @Will2Power @teratology genocidal master plans also didnt seem to exist until looking back in hindsight after the war, they were just seeking to deport them and maintain them inside ghettos as far as most people knew at that time.
  
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  eemmaa (eemmaa@girlboss.gaslight.love)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 08:11:20 JST eemmaa
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  @georgia @Diceyocean @anemone @arcana @mischievoustomato @EvilSandmich @Will2Power @teratology its not isolated to the political fringe, even boomer left wingers are going "i think something bad might be happening over in palestine"
  
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  georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 08:11:20 JST georgia
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  @eemmaa @Diceyocean @anemone @arcana @mischievoustomato @EvilSandmich @Will2Power @teratology that doesn't mean that bad thing is a genocide as opposed to what I see it as, which is war crimes
  
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  georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 08:15:07 JST georgia
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  @eemmaa @Diceyocean @anemone @arcana @mischievoustomato @EvilSandmich @Will2Power @teratology I havent seen it in a single mainstream US news source
  
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  eemmaa (eemmaa@girlboss.gaslight.love)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 08:15:08 JST eemmaa
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  @georgia @Diceyocean @anemone @arcana @mischievoustomato @EvilSandmich @Will2Power @teratology im just saying, thinking this is starting to feel like a genocide is not a fringe belief in the US at the moment. The idea that it is fringe is only held by government officials.
  
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