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   MummaBear 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 ( Dame) (mummabear@noauthority.social)'s status on Sunday, 20-Oct-2024 17:17:32 JST MummaBear 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 ( Dame)

   Omg all music is fake 😱😭

   https://chng.it/Snyt5wtrcx
   Petition · Disclosing Pitch Correction use on a Singer's Voice - United Kingdom · Change.org

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     Inscius (inscius@noauthority.social)'s status on Sunday, 20-Oct-2024 17:17:31 JST Inscius

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     @MummaBear His channel is really interesting. Used to be mainly about guitar playing but he has done a lot of vocal analysis lately. Have not followed it much lately. But he is good. And serious.

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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Sunday, 20-Oct-2024 18:10:28 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     Wait until he finds out that melodyne can be used pull apart a guitar chord and pitch correct the notes it's comprised of.
     
     I won't mention time correction or the ability to cut and time stretch vocals to match the meter or rhythm.
     
     Imagine just discovering this in 2024. 😒
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     EvolLove (evollove@noauthority.social)'s status on Sunday, 20-Oct-2024 18:10:29 JST EvolLove

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     The worst part is that AI can probably produce some melodies that are almost ok. Pair that up with mediocre singers with automatic pitch and put more effort into the technology and sound technique than the actual talent and we will get mediocre music that almost sounds like a hit.

     The risk is that real musicians might get drowned out in a river full of mass produced garbage.

     Anyone with money can produce a pop star now.

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     Dudebro (dudebro@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Sunday, 20-Oct-2024 19:23:21 JST Dudebro

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     Are we having the old auto tune argument again?
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     DrFell (Disgruntled Citizen)✅️ (drfell@freeatlantis.com)'s status on Sunday, 20-Oct-2024 19:23:34 JST DrFell (Disgruntled Citizen)✅️

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     @EvolLove @ned @Humpleupagus @MummaBear
     It comes down to old school, to preserve the ancient arts. With minor assistance to enhance the arrangement without being a fraud, and actually being a studied journeyman of the methods and craft.

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     EvolLove (evollove@noauthority.social)'s status on Sunday, 20-Oct-2024 19:23:35 JST EvolLove

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     @ned @Humpleupagus @MummaBear

     Well there's a lot of mass produced garbage out there. And then there are real musicians who can still perform live and unplugged. Singers who sing a capella.

     Everyone is not a tone death moron.

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     Sir Nedwood (ned@noauthority.social)'s status on Sunday, 20-Oct-2024 19:23:36 JST Sir Nedwood

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     @Humpleupagus @EvolLove @MummaBear wait till he hears about the evertune Bridge.

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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Sunday, 20-Oct-2024 19:25:16 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     Parametric EQ... cheating or not? Compressors? Reverb? High Gain amplifiers? Mic positioning? 😏
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     Sir Nedwood (ned@noauthority.social)'s status on Sunday, 20-Oct-2024 20:45:36 JST Sir Nedwood

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     • EvolLove

     @EvolLove @DrFell @Humpleupagus @MummaBear same goes for tool assisted music. If music is high quality in production, but low quality in artistic merit, no one will listen. If the production is shit, but the music good, everyone will listen.

     But having said that. If you put enough money and industry psyop behind anything you can make it popular.

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     Sir Nedwood (ned@noauthority.social)'s status on Sunday, 20-Oct-2024 20:45:37 JST Sir Nedwood

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     @EvolLove @DrFell @Humpleupagus @MummaBear this argument about AI is stupid. Sure AI can make music. But who will listen to it? Music is art. And we don't make art because it's good. We make it because we want to. See as evidence every high school band ever.

     even if AI can make a simulacrum of art, there's no point engaging with it. The place for AI music is in elevators and shopping malls.

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     EvolLove (evollove@noauthority.social)'s status on Sunday, 20-Oct-2024 20:45:38 JST EvolLove

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     @DrFell @ned @Humpleupagus @MummaBear

     We still have music school. Young students are learning to play instruments and how to sing and they learn from real musicians and they practice on folk music and blues and rock and pop.

     And there are classical schools too and people still sing in the churches.

     I don't think people will forget about music soon. And when there is real music people will recognize it.

     https://rumble.com/v3ei7lj-15-year-old-emma-kok-sings-voil-andr-rieu-maastricht-2023-official-video.html

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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Monday, 21-Oct-2024 06:03:20 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     Have you ever tried to drop tune the top string on a Floyd Rose? 😩
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     Sir Nedwood (ned@noauthority.social)'s status on Monday, 21-Oct-2024 06:03:21 JST Sir Nedwood

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     @DrFell @Humpleupagus @EvolLove @MummaBear it's a bridge on a guitar that balances the tension on each string individually such that it's always in tune no matter what. Vibrato no longer works. If you bend a string slightly the bridge saddle moves with it and the note stays the same pitch. Metal rythym guitarists use it a lot so they can thrash around on stage without sounding like ass.

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     DrFell (Disgruntled Citizen)✅️ (drfell@freeatlantis.com)'s status on Monday, 21-Oct-2024 06:03:22 JST DrFell (Disgruntled Citizen)✅️

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     @ned @Humpleupagus @EvolLove @MummaBear

     Are you talking about a bridge on a stringed instrument, Evertune? Is there such a thing?

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     Sir Nedwood (ned@noauthority.social)'s status on Monday, 21-Oct-2024 07:17:35 JST Sir Nedwood

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     @Humpleupagus @DrFell @EvolLove @MummaBear TBF drop D on an evertune is also a pita

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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 08:49:00 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     I once gave piano lessons to a girl. She was Jewish. Her parents were there. In the middle of the lesson, I discussed the Father Cleft, the God Cleft, and then proceeded to say that C sits in the middle because Christ is the son. Needless to say, they were less than pleased. 😏
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     nanook (nanook@friendica.eskimo.com)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 08:49:01 JST nanook

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     @EvolLove @Humpleupagus @DrFell @MummaBear Here is a fun bullshit conspiracy theory on the subject: sensoryland.com/blog1/440hz-vs… You'll note on the end he attributes the effect on people to being that 432 HZ resonates with the Schumann Resonance of 8Hz, never mind that the Schumann resonance is an electromagnetic phenomena having to do with the time it takes an electromagnetic wave to circumnavigate the Earth and thus be in phase with itself and reinforcing when it comes all the way around and NOT an accoustic phenomena, but this detail aside, 432Hz and 440Hz are BOTH even multiples of the Schumann resonance, and thus both harmonics of it, so even if that were a factor it would apply equally to both.
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     EvolLove (evollove@noauthority.social)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 08:49:02 JST EvolLove

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     @MummaBear @nanook @Humpleupagus @DrFell

     A conspiracy does not have to mean that it is done for some evil purpose. Normal meetings can be specified as such.

     It's a known conspiracy theory. Might be true might be false. I have no stake in this so I am fine with it either way.

     I just find it interesting. Would I be able to hear the difference?

     Is there a difference in quality?

     What did we lose what did we gain when we changed it?

     Perhaps Ill just ask some professional audio engineer. 😀

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     MummaBear 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 ( Dame) (mummabear@noauthority.social)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 08:49:03 JST MummaBear 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 ( Dame)

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     @EvolLove @nanook @Humpleupagus @DrFell it's a huge conspiracy why " they" change it

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     EvolLove (evollove@noauthority.social)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 08:49:04 JST EvolLove

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     @MummaBear @nanook @Humpleupagus @DrFell

     That is the one I was thinking about. So it was before the digitalization then.

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     EvolLove (evollove@noauthority.social)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 08:49:05 JST EvolLove

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     @MummaBear @nanook @Humpleupagus @DrFell

     I have no idea when it started. I just remember that ever since the CD it have been a re occurring topic. Perhaps it was only among musicians?

     Some even went back to LP again. Perhaps it was more about pr than sound quality. Something to make U stand out.

     When they get a demo on LP with cover and all. And fan service.

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     MummaBear 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 ( Dame) (mummabear@noauthority.social)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 08:49:05 JST MummaBear 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 ( Dame)

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     @EvolLove @nanook @Humpleupagus @DrFell 1969 I think the 440 beginner standard. Frequency's are a whole thing regarding the bodies well being

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     EvolLove (evollove@noauthority.social)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 08:49:06 JST EvolLove

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     @MummaBear @nanook @Humpleupagus @DrFell

     Wasn't there talk about hertz? 44 hertz compared to something something. It happened after we went from LP to CD and then there was something about the hertz was changed.

     But that was not about pitching though.

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     MummaBear 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 ( Dame) (mummabear@noauthority.social)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 08:49:06 JST MummaBear 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 ( Dame)

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     @EvolLove @nanook @Humpleupagus @DrFell the Hz changed in the 1960? I forgot

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     MummaBear 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 ( Dame) (mummabear@noauthority.social)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 08:49:07 JST MummaBear 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 ( Dame)

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     @nanook @Humpleupagus @DrFell @EvolLove what's that guy he gives loads of examples. Even Freddie Mercury was destroyed

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     nanook (nanook@friendica.eskimo.com)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 08:49:08 JST nanook

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     @EvolLove @Humpleupagus @DrFell @nanook thority.social @MummaBear I'm not going to say it never happens but I've never heard a remaster ruined in this manner.
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     EvolLove (evollove@noauthority.social)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 08:49:09 JST EvolLove

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     @MummaBear @nanook @Humpleupagus @DrFell @ned

     Are old records being remastered with this technique? Sounds a bit excessive. Some natural imperfections are just what makes it perfect.

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     nanook (nanook@friendica.eskimo.com)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 08:49:10 JST nanook

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     @EvolLove @Humpleupagus @DrFell @ned @MummaBear I do my best to forget her now.
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     MummaBear 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 ( Dame) (mummabear@noauthority.social)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 08:49:10 JST MummaBear 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 ( Dame)

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     @nanook @Humpleupagus @DrFell @ned @EvolLove they are going back and pitch correcting everything 😭

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     EvolLove (evollove@noauthority.social)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 08:49:11 JST EvolLove

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     @ned @DrFell @Humpleupagus @MummaBear

     Yes anything can be made trending these days. If you hear a song enough times. I think there is even some science done on that topic.

     But I don't think artists like Taylor Swift will be remembered after the money dries up.