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   Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 22:19:52 JST Sick Sun
   what if the service is outside the EU and you can't shut it down
   
   chatcontrol is a terrible idea (if you are for it you are a legitimate fascist) but these suggestions suck
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 22:20:47 JST Sick Sun

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     "what is Tor"
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     on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ (lain@lain.com)'s status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 22:23:06 JST on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

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     @sun pirate party used to be aimless but hardcore libertarians, now they are just social democrats who run Arch these days
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     :blobcatflower: (methyltheobromine@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 22:23:56 JST :blobcatflower:

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     @sun chatcontrol is so terrible it doesn't need an alternative. it needs a sledgehammer to the skull to everyone still trying to make this happen smh
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 22:24:24 JST Sick Sun

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     • on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ
     @lain yeah it's toast now
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     smug@smuganimeavatar.xyz's status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 22:24:34 JST smug

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     The French court system considers it sus if you use tor, signal etc

     "All members of this group were particularly suspicious, only communicated with each other through encrypted applications, particularly Signal, and encrypting their computer media […]. "

     https://www-laquadrature-net.translate.goog/2023/06/05/affaire-du-8-decembre-le-chiffrement-des-communications-assimile-a-un-comportement-terroriste/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US

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     bonifartius (bonifartius@noauthority.social)'s status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 22:29:15 JST bonifartius

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     @sun i vaguely remember a statistic floating around that shows that when you deal with csam across borders, it's really effective to just drop providers a mail. numbers were like "12h and it's gone in 99% of cases" effective.

     it's almost as if the things that should be deleted or chatcontrolled are other things. like "misinformation".

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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 22:29:46 JST Sick Sun

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     • on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ
     @lain I think the swedish one decided to stop talking about piracy and instead talks about refugees and immigration. aren't there like 25 parties already that do that
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     on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ (lain@lain.com)'s status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 22:33:05 JST on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

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     @sun the youth organization of the German Green Party decided to split from the main party to finally found a new left-wing party that isn’t afraid of the powers that be
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 22:35:30 JST Sick Sun

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     • on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ
     @lain I can't get over that there are politicians still active from when the green party was promoting child molestation in the 80s
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     on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ (lain@lain.com)'s status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 22:36:55 JST on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

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     @sun the whole “die linke” party is literally the East German state party.
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 22:38:08 JST Sick Sun

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     • smug
     @smug @newt that is true but you can't be compelled to give up a password at least.
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     smug@smuganimeavatar.xyz's status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 22:38:09 JST smug

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     In the US you can be compelled to unlock your phone with your fingerprint.

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     :suya: (newt@stereophonic.space)'s status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 22:38:11 JST :suya:

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     • smug
     @smug @sun in France, it is a separate felony to refuse to give up your passwords and keys if you are already investigated for something else. The fifth doesn't exist there, basically.
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 22:40:33 JST Sick Sun

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     @lucy @smug @newt
     I meant in the USA, you can be compelled to unlok with fingerprint but you still can't be compelled to give up a password.
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     :blobcatflower: (methyltheobromine@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 22:40:34 JST :blobcatflower:

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     • smug
     @sun @smug @newt yes you can this is not america
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 22:43:15 JST Sick Sun

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     • smug
     @smug @newt the USA is really close to overturning not having to cough up passwords, they are attacking it constantly in court now.
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     smug@smuganimeavatar.xyz's status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 22:43:16 JST smug

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     It depends on the state, but generally yes. In this case though you might just circumstantially "forget" passwords

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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 22:54:31 JST Sick Sun

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     @lucy @maxmustermann I brought it up because I saw a gnueet that said it's being brought back up for a vote again soon by Hungary.
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     Max Mustermann (maxmustermann@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 22:54:33 JST Max Mustermann

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     @sun All those suggestions suck. Except 3. 3 is already policy on many platforms. Also chat control was snagged by the EU court last time I heard about it.
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     :blobcatflower: (methyltheobromine@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 22:54:33 JST :blobcatflower:

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     • Max Mustermann
     @maxmustermann @sun they tried pushing chatcontrol for years and they'll keep trying until they succeed.
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 22:57:43 JST Sick Sun

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     • on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ
     • 𝕾𝖎𝖗 𝕽𝖞𝖆𝖓 𝕿𝖍𝖔𝖒𝖆𝖘
     @ryan @lain I tried to get involved with it when I was in a different state and at the same time I started, the party was so disused that it lost its filings to be an official party and it was too much work to get it reinstated.
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     𝕾𝖎𝖗 𝕽𝖞𝖆𝖓 𝕿𝖍𝖔𝖒𝖆𝖘 (ryan@bxe.io)'s status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 22:57:48 JST 𝕾𝖎𝖗 𝕽𝖞𝖆𝖓 𝕿𝖍𝖔𝖒𝖆𝖘

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     • on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ
     @lain @sun We have a pirate party affiliate in formation in the US. I wrote to the chairman that the foreign policy section on their website wasn't anti-empire enough and the way it was written it could be interpreted to justify the US invading and overthrowing other countries for having monopolies and strict copyright laws. He accused me of being a "Maga communist", so I lost interest
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 23:10:01 JST Sick Sun

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     • smug
     @newt @smug that is correct, you can be prevented from entry if you are not a citizen for basically any reason
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     :suya: (newt@stereophonic.space)'s status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 23:10:03 JST :suya:

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     • smug
     @sun @smug i hear that the fifth isn't applied when you cross the border. Hence half of my frens never carry their devices and have two completely separate sets of hardware in 'murrica and Oirope.
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 23:19:22 JST Sick Sun

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     • mothball蛾玉 (和文化研究部)
     @moth_ball @lain yep I was shocked about it
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     mothball蛾玉 (和文化研究部) (moth_ball@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 23:19:23 JST mothball蛾玉 (和文化研究部)

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     • on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ
     @sun @lain Promoting w-what now? Really?
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 08-Oct-2024 01:13:56 JST 翠星石

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     @newt The fifth amendment isn't very useful for you in the USA if a device is unlocked with fingerprints or a facial scan - yes the glowers can force isheep to unlock an iphone if they were dumb enough to use "face unlock".