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   Pissed Hippo (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 00:49:30 JST Pissed Hippo
   If "not documenting internal interfaces is a design choice because we are constantly changing improving things" then Rust should never have been allowed in the Linux kernel because it is not a good fit for that.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 00:51:41 JST 翠星石

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     @sun Linux is only a kernel, so writing "the Linux kernel" implies that it is more than a kernel.
     
     If you mean Linux, just write Linux.
     
     If you want to stress that Linux is only a kernel, you should write the kernel, Linux, or Linux, the kernel.
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     Pissed Hippo (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 00:54:25 JST Pissed Hippo

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     @Suiseiseki I was clarifying I was talking about the Linux kernel and not Linux detergent
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     kuteboiCoder (kuteboicoder@subs4social.xyz)'s status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 00:58:22 JST kuteboiCoder

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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 01:04:13 JST 翠星石

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     @sun Linux detergent doesn't oxidize your CPU unlike rust in Linux - so I wasn't reminded in the slightest of such detergent - nobody else would be mislead either.
     
     Meanwhile, many people are mislead immensely by the the phrase "the Linux kernel", as few people are there to tell them that Linux is only a kernel and instead they see GNU being referred to as "Linux" a lot, so they figure it has the same meaning as OS's where the kernel doesn't have a particular name, for example; "the NT kernel", "the openBSD kernel" or "the macos kernel" (surprising such kernel actually has a not-well-known name - XNU) - the assumption they are directed to is that "the OS is Linux" and the kernel doesn't have a particular name - if only they knew that Linux is only a kernel and it should call it by it's name.
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     Pissed Hippo (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 01:06:35 JST Pissed Hippo

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     @Suiseiseki don't elucidate me how to english
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 01:08:00 JST 翠星石

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     @leyonhjelm Software doesn't have a "foundation" like a building, as it doesn't face physical limitations - you can build the software equivalent of a huge castle built only on top of a single instruction.
     
     systemd is arguably more of a "foundation" than Linux, as Linux will panic() on boot and shut down if it can't find systemd; https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/init/main.c#n1525
     
     
     The real foundation is the solid bedrock of all the GNU code that every nontrivial piece of free software and even nonfree software relies on.
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     ランファン (leyonhjelm@breastmilk.club)'s status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 01:08:01 JST ランファン

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     @Suiseiseki
     
     Linux is a kernel and foundation. Rust shouldn’t be in either.
     
     @sun
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 01:08:33 JST 翠星石

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     @sun I'm elucidating you on how to GNU/Freedom.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 01:10:41 JST 翠星石

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     @0 I didn't write that.
     
     This "user space" you speak of is boatloads of GNU software on my system and why would I call that "Linux"?
     
     I didn't write that wget is a search engine - I wrote that it can be used as a web browser provided one is capable of rendering HTML in their head.
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     0 (https://pl.absolutelyproprietary.org/users/0)'s status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 01:10:42 JST 0

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     @Suiseiseki @sun
     
     "User space isn't real."
     
     t. Guy that pretends wget is his search engine.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 01:21:35 JST 翠星石

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     @phoenix Yes, there is the lifestyle of Linux developers, where you program a proprietary kernel with proprietary software and surprise, surprise, that kernel fails to respect the users freedom even though it's meant to be GPLv2-only.
     
     (Bonus points for complaining about the wholly free GNU Linux-libre version that does respect the users freedom that is actually legal to distribute without instantly losing your license, as it actually complies with the terms of the GPLv2).
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     phoenix :keeki: (phoenix@amala.schwartzwelt.xyz)'s status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 01:21:36 JST phoenix :keeki:

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     @sun @Suiseiseki Linux is more than just a kernel, it’s a lifestyle.
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     0 (https://pl.absolutelyproprietary.org/users/0)'s status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 01:39:59 JST 0

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     @Suiseiseki
     
     > I didn't write that wget is a search engine
     
     The question asked was "Name a GNU compat search engine."
     
     Now you want to walk back the retarded answer you gave before with qualifications, I don't care.
     
     GNU retards are fucking insufferable.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 01:39:59 JST 翠星石

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     @0 I believed you were referring to my recent comment about wget being usable as a web browser.
     
     My point several months ago what that with bash scripting and wget's --recursive functionality, you could use wget as a web scraper, extract the text and metadata from the pages, shove that into a database and then do search operations on that database - which is not conventional, but it entirely possible to pull off just with GNU software, or with the help of software that is typically available for download on GNU/Linux distributions.
     
     The hardest part of search engines is not the crawling, indexing or searching functionality, the issue is having the bandwidth and enough IPs to crawl an appreciable amount of the internet, the storage space to store the metadata and also enough CPU power to process many text search queries rapidly.
     
     There are of course plenty of search engines on other people's computers that work fine without JavaScript like searx, 4get, duckduckgo and startpage.
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     Pissed Hippo (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 01:43:00 JST Pissed Hippo

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     @pwm @amerika @KuteboiCoder you can write functions in javascript in opstgresql with an extension, i had to use it to port a hashing function
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     kuteboiCoder (kuteboicoder@subs4social.xyz)'s status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 01:43:01 JST kuteboiCoder

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     @amerika@annihilation.social @sun@shitposter.world
     
     One of my regrets is that I've never been capable of bare-metal programming for any useful purpose. Professionally I'm doing webdev shit and arithmetic in SQL (don't ask).

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     pwm (pwm@pl.absolutelyproprietary.org)'s status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 01:43:01 JST pwm

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     @KuteboiCoder @sun @amerika SQL is an extremely capable calculator (but don't ask me about the time I had to write an approximation to a transcendental function using it's taylor series because the sql engine didn't have the function built in)
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     ≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Monday, 07-Oct-2024 01:43:02 JST ≠

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     @KuteboiCoder @sun
     
     Millennials cannot code a HELLO WORLD without 700mb of framework and javascript
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     :trans_paw:⛧Alex⛧:trans_paw: (alex@boymilk.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 08-Oct-2024 02:18:45 JST :trans_paw:⛧Alex⛧:trans_paw:

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     This is some incredibly pointless and technically incorrect pedantry, the most annoying form of pedantry.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 08-Oct-2024 02:18:45 JST 翠星石

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     @Alex What if I told you it's incredibly important and correct pedantry, the most seething causing form of pedantry?
     
     https://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html#afterkernel
     
     https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/init/main.c#n1525