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   кину奇诺 (kino@fedi.intkos.link)'s status on Thursday, 10-Nov-2022 10:51:27 JST кину奇诺

   The slightest amount of difficulty or abstraction totally gate-keeps most people. Move the goalpost for accessibility by like 3 IQ percentage points and you see a massive drop-off in users (for the better). It's pretty bizarre and pathetic seeing these people gloat about, essentially, how stupid they are and how they're incapable of comprehending pretty simple, straightforward concepts.
   
   The earlier internet was a much, much better place precisely because it was slightly more difficult to understand and utilize. The earlier internet was more difficult and more abstract than the fediverse. The simplification and appification of the internet and internet-connected services/networks has been a disaster for the human race.
   
   RE: https://ryona.agency/objects/205030ab-e1e6-40a9-b890-bafe2b655261

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     MMS21 :blobcatkirby: (mms21@seal.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 10-Nov-2022 10:51:24 JST MMS21 :blobcatkirby:

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     btw I’ve written off forums completely and I’m learning C++ everyday so that I can make calico-chat.
     
     A FOSS self hosted discord clone is the only way forward imo.
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     [Burn] (burn@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Thursday, 10-Nov-2022 10:51:24 JST [Burn]

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     @MMS21
     
     @kino @kroner
     
     Why don't you just use XMPP instead? I've heard that Matrix has metadata problems from @ryo, so Matrix is inferior.
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     MMS21 :blobcatkirby: (mms21@seal.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 10-Nov-2022 10:51:25 JST MMS21 :blobcatkirby:

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     There’s hope for reverting the web back to the good old days when it was just nerds.
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     kroner (kroner@seal.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 10-Nov-2022 10:51:25 JST kroner

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     Hopefully the project I'm working on can help with that, we will see ?
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     кину奇诺 (kino@fedi.intkos.link)'s status on Thursday, 10-Nov-2022 10:51:30 JST кину奇诺

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     @Burn@social.076.ne.jp I've heard that Matrix has metadata problemsOnly if you're using Matrix.org afaIk.
     @MMS21@seal.cafe @kroner@seal.cafe @ryo@social.076.ne.jp

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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Thursday, 10-Nov-2022 10:55:46 JST 寮

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     • MMS21 :blobcatkirby:
     @kino @kroner @MMS21 @Burn Imagine how many people are on Matrix.org, and how many who are on other instances interact with at least someone on who's on Matrix.org.
     Unlike XMPP that keeps data local, Matrix actually makes full copies of all the data to each instance it gets in contact with, so in theory, even if you have no contact with anyone on Matrix.org at all and your entire MUC consists of nobody who's on Matrix.org, but somebody who's in your MUC has a friend who's on Matrix.org, then that metadata still gets sent to Matrix.org.
     
     I haven't used Matrix for years now, so this is basically theory.
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     Udon (udon@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Thursday, 10-Nov-2022 18:11:20 JST Udon

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     @Burn @MMS21 @kino @kroner @ryo
     https://github.com/libremonde-org/paper-research-privacy-matrix.org
     also
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     Balrog Booger (balrog_booger@kabuki.club)'s status on Thursday, 10-Nov-2022 22:24:57 JST Balrog Booger

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     I haven’t gone through the code or anything, so I have no idea if this is an actual concern. But apparently the early development of Matrix has ties to Mossad https://lukesmith.xyz/articles/matrix-vs-xmpp/

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