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   @twinspin6@outerheaven.club @mold@yourwalls.today Dolby is just header files, not that big of a deal.
   
   I think the company that's really going to be mad is Shoutcast. Their whole server source code got leaked.

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     @newt@stereophonic.space @twinspin6@outerheaven.club @mold@yourwalls.today I work as a software developer at a radio network. I know for a fact that like 90% of the radio channels part of our network run some version of Shoutcast. Some of them run Icecast instead tho which is very based.

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     @SuperDicq @twinspin6 @mold does anyone even care about Shoutcast? Might as well open source it too.
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     @newt@stereophonic.space @twinspin6@outerheaven.club @mold@yourwalls.today Yeah and IceCast is free software and it's still very popular in the radio business. Because really any respectable FM radio station also has a internet stream nowadays.

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     @SuperDicq @twinspin6 @mold exactly. IceCast is a thing since times immemorial.
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     @newt@stereophonic.space @twinspin6@outerheaven.club @mold@yourwalls.today I'm just a software developer tho. Mainly PHP but also some ffmpeg and sox scripts for editing and processing audio files to be aired which is fun.

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     @SuperDicq @twinspin6 @mold kinda envy you. I too would probably wanna work for a radio network.
     
     P.S. used to work for a Big Video Streaming company, it was fun.
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     @newt@stereophonic.space @twinspin6@outerheaven.club @mold@yourwalls.today I actually really like PHP, especially anything Laravel based which I get to work on.

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     @SuperDicq @twinspin6 @mold
     >PHP
     
     Ok, never mind. That sucks.
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     @prettygood@socially.drinkingatmy.computer @newt@stereophonic.space @twinspin6@outerheaven.club @mold@yourwalls.today Do you speak Dutch? I can definitely talk to my employer.

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     @newt @SuperDicq @twinspin6 @mold heck that, PHP and ffmpeg are my jam, y'all hiring?
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     @prettygood @SuperDicq @twinspin6 @mold it's not that hard. Even I can speak Dutch!
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     @SuperDicq @newt @twinspin6 @mold lol, nope.
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     @newt@stereophonic.space @twinspin6@outerheaven.club @mold@yourwalls.today I have not much bad to say about PHP nowadays. I unironically think it is one of the best option for any software that needs to run using FastCGI.
     
     It's fully stateless, so perfect for anything that mostly handles HTTP requests. It's really fast and optimized (compared to other interpreted like Perl and Ruby). It has a very easy to read and recognizable syntax. And it is also one of the only loosely-typed languages that actually makes their type system make sense in my opinion. PHP Composer is also one of the better dependency managers I've ever used (especially compared to dogshit like npm or bundler).
     
     In my experience the people hating on PHP today are either people who have last used PHP 5.6 on some legacy project or zoomer JS soydevs who just heard "PHP bad" on Leddit.

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     @SuperDicq @twinspin6 @mold
     > I actually really like PHP
     
     :comfypeeksweat: w-w-w-w-w-what have they done to you?
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     @newt@stereophonic.space @twinspin6@outerheaven.club @mold@yourwalls.today I am aware and I don't consider PHP to be a general purpose programming language, especially if you're doing anything continuous or multi-threaded task PHP is a big no no.
     
     But for any application that just has to process HTTP requests and speak to a database there's no better tool for the job.
     
     Don't worry I'm not one of those people who is gonna write their next game engine PHP or something like that.

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     @SuperDicq @twinspin6 @mold
     > I unironically think it is one of the best option for any software that needs to run using FastCGI.
     
     Yeah, there lies the problem. PHP isn't so much a programming language as it is a tool for a singular job with a rather overgrown DSL attached. There are just so many kinds of software that are either impractical or outright impossible to implement in PHP.
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     @newt@stereophonic.space @twinspin6@outerheaven.club @mold@yourwalls.today Yes, technically speaking Haskell indeed has FastCGI support. But I highly doubt writing the same types of web applications that I do at work is as easy to accomplish in Haskell.

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     @SuperDicq @twinspin6 @mold
     >But for any application that just has to process HTTP requests and speak to a database there's no better tool for the job.
     
     We have that in Haskell too.
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     @newt@stereophonic.space @twinspin6@outerheaven.club @mold@yourwalls.today If it is a persistent service it is not stateless and that makes it not a replacement for PHP.

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     @SuperDicq @twinspin6 @mold we also do have haskell on frontend, for some reason. Though, I prefer to avoid touching that stuff.
     
     Also, no FastCGI is needed there. It's a persistent service.
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     @newt@stereophonic.space @twinspin6@outerheaven.club @mold@yourwalls.today I've honestly never encountered a memory leak in PHP that wasn't my own fault, where you getting this from?

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     @SuperDicq @twinspin6 @mold it is stateless. As in, it can be restarted at any point and has no state.
     
     PHP is stateless mostly due to rampant memory leaks, because writing stateful software in PHP is utterly impossible. It's really a shame how many promising developers were hooked up on it, when they could have written something worthwhile and much more impressive than yet another website. Really tragic.
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     @SuperDicq @newt @twinspin6 @mold gnu social had them but...gnu social
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     @sun@shitposter.world @newt@stereophonic.space @twinspin6@outerheaven.club @mold@yourwalls.today That was PHP 5.6...

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     @SuperDicq @newt @twinspin6 @mold it was mainly the backend queue processor that ran persistently
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     @sun@shitposter.world @newt@stereophonic.space @twinspin6@outerheaven.club @mold@yourwalls.today Back in 5.6 garbage collecting was ass. It is much better now.
     
     Also nobody writes their own queue processor anymore, recipe for disaster. Just use either Laravel's or Symfony's queue system.
     
     Also make sure to batch your queue jobs so they don't run forever?

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     @SuperDicq @newt @twinspin6 @mold you never stop getting new stuff in your queue on a fedi server, you know that
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     @sun@shitposter.world @newt@stereophonic.space @twinspin6@outerheaven.club @mold@yourwalls.today Yeah but you can just save the queue job parameters your database, cache or broker software and then just handle them The Stateless Way™

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     @sun@shitposter.world @newt@stereophonic.space @twinspin6@outerheaven.club @mold@yourwalls.today Speaking of PHP fedi software I think the only relevant fedi software written in PHP nowadays is PixelFed correct?
     
     Not that I actually care about PixelFed because cloning Instagram is a garbage idea for normies and the frontend fucking sucks ass, but I think the server is very stable?

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     @sun@shitposter.world @newt@stereophonic.space @twinspin6@outerheaven.club @mold@yourwalls.today I have the urge to fork PixelFed and strip out all the Instagram bloat, turn it into a microblogging platform and port BloatFE to it and compare its performance with Pleroma Error: JSON.parse: unexpected character at line 1 column 1 of the JSON data

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     @newt@stereophonic.space @twinspin6@outerheaven.club @sun@shitposter.world @mold@yourwalls.today I never ran PixelFed so I'm kinda curious about how it runs actually. What sucks about it?

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     @SuperDicq @twinspin6 @sun @mold welp... I run a private pixelfed instance and it kinda sucks in just so many ways.
     
     Sometimes I think if it's possible to bolt PixelFed FE to Pleroma.
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     @SuperDicq @newt @twinspin6 @mold I see people complaining that it just has weird bugs
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     @sun@shitposter.world @newt@stereophonic.space @twinspin6@outerheaven.club @mold@yourwalls.today In terms of database and queue performance I've unironically had the best luck with hosting Misskey so far, despite it being written in fucking Javascript