Darnell Clayton :verified:
I wonder how far the @EUCommission will be able to push #Apple around before the company abandons the #EuropeanUnion 🇪🇺 market‽
👉🏾 Apple Faces EU Warning to Open Up #iPhone Operating System https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-09-19/apple-faces-eu-warning-to-open-up-iphone-operating-system
Darnell Clayton :verified:
@spla @EUCommission Apple would unofficially support them, but the official stores would disappear.
spla :senyera: :fed: :vim:
@darnell what about its users?@EUCommission
Darnell Clayton :verified:
@rysiek @spla @EUCommission So far Apple will not launch their AI within the European Union 🇪🇺 (Apple Intelligence) but the trade off is that EU folks get access to third party app stores.
It is similar to Meta, who declined ActivityPub support for EU users on Threads, but they get the ability to experience Instagram without ads for a fee.
Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦
@spla every single time the EU does something to curb the power of Big Tech, there is "concern" that "it is going too far" and "what if they leave the market".
Didn't happen with GDPR.
Didn't happen with charging ports and chargers regulations.
Won't happen with DMA/DSA (which are the legislative acts that underpin the app store thing), with right-to-repair regulation, or anything else of the sort.
Apple has a long history of throwing tantrums around regulation.
Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦
@spla pretty sure @EUCommission is aligned here with what users need/want.
This kind of straight-up assuming this is some kind of inexplicable and senseless power-grab by the EU Commission is really getting tedious.
EU moves slow on such things, but it moves deliberately. It took years to negotiate and enact the acts that underpin this enforcement action. If EU citizens had a problem with that, they'd push back, hard, over the years. As an EU citizen I have seen no such push-back.
spla :senyera: :fed: :vim:
@darnell sounds bad, could be a lot better EUComission asking EU Apple users what they need/want @EUCommission
Darnell Clayton :verified:
@rysiek @spla @EUCommission Oooooo!! That does sound nice!
Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦
@spla dunno, being able to run VLC on an iDevice sounds pretty tempting to me.
spla :senyera: :fed: :vim:
@rysiek
I'm not forced to use them and will never do it 😉
@darnell @EUCommission
Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦
@spla you never asked about it. Others have. Otherwise that regulation would not come to pass.
But good news is, you are not going to be forced to use third party app stores. You have that choice, and you don't even have to do anything. 😃
And I am glad Safari works for you. I am also glad others will have the choice to use what works for them.
spla :senyera: :fed: :vim:
@darnell we don't need third app stores, never asked about that.
And Safari is a really great browser. I tested all of them on Mac but Safari is great.
@rysiek @EUCommission
Darnell Clayton :verified:
@rysiek @spla @EUCommission I am officially jealous! 😄🤣😂
Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦
@darnell yeah, that's the kind of thing that this third-party app store is about. Framed like that, doesn't sound all that bad, does it? :ablobwink:
Darnell Clayton :verified:
@DrPen @rysiek @spla @EUCommission They are not able to turn federation on at all! It’s not an option available to them.
Outside of the European Union 🇪🇺 you can turn on Federation.
I could be in Russia 🇷🇺 (via VPN) & have Federation on my Threads account. But that is not an option for EU residents.
Dr Pen
@rysiek @darnell @spla @EUCommission I live in the EU but don't have threads (I deactivated IG). So you're saying EU threads accts can't federated to see mastodon accts in their threads feeds (for example).
Dr Pen
@darnell @rysiek @spla @EUCommission why are you saying EU users dont get Activitypub support on Threads? Is that from the Threads acct side? Becasue Im in the EU and follow several threads accounts via Mastodon apps. I do run the bridge though.
Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦
@DrPen it's the other way around: if you were an EU citizen with a Threads account, your Threads account would not have ActivityPub enabled.
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