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   fatepony (fatepony@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 19-Sep-2024 14:10:29 JST fatepony
   Niggertendo has sued Palworld
   Death to Copyright
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 19-Sep-2024 14:10:28 JST 翠星石

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     @fatepony >Lawsuit is about patents as the title in bold points out.

     "Copyright".

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     Coon Appreciater (mebigbrain@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 19-Sep-2024 14:11:39 JST Coon Appreciater

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     @fatepony They own the patent to monster-capture sphere technology.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 19-Sep-2024 14:11:39 JST 翠星石

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     • Coon Appreciater
     @MeBigbrain >They own the patent
     Patents are held and not owned.
     
     If patents were owned, they would not expire after 20 years and would rather be valid forever.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 19-Sep-2024 14:15:10 JST 翠星石

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     • brokenshakles
     @brokenshakles >You can't patent an algorithm
     Yes, in the USA and I believe also in Japan, math legally is not a patentable subject matter, but the patent offices award patents on math anyway.
     
     >I would have gone with a trademark infringement suit first.
     As far as I'm aware, "palword" didn't contain a single one of ninty's trademarks and therefore that kind of suit would be a sure loss if it actually went to court.
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     :watamelon: Xylo ? (qwerty@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 19-Sep-2024 14:15:11 JST :watamelon: Xylo ?

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     @fatepony o frick
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     brokenshakles (brokenshakles@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 19-Sep-2024 14:15:11 JST brokenshakles

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     • :watamelon: Xylo ?
     @qwerty @fatepony Lolz, patents? You can't patent an algorithm, and video games are nothing but. Sounds like they are getting desperate, I would have gone with a trademark infringement suit first.
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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 19-Sep-2024 20:27:27 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     • Cliff Secord
     Ironically, Nintendo got its foot in the door in large part by winning a trademark infringement suit re King Kong / Donkey Kong. Kirby is named after John Kirby, who was nintendo's counsel. The character Kirby just copies the other characters in the game. Get it?
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     Living Space Studios :verified: (livingspacestudios@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 19-Sep-2024 20:27:28 JST Living Space Studios :verified:

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     • Cliff Secord
     @brokenshakles @CliffSecord @fatepony @qwerty People only tolerate Copyrights and Patenting because they're recent enough concepts to only apply to modern and semi-modern things. If you apply the concept to anything older than the last few hundred years it would seem ridiculous to anyone.
     
     Could you imagine having to pay licensing fees to sell wood because Ugg The Caveman patented the concept of chopping bits of wood and then using them to start fires.
     
     Such a thing is too ridiculous for us to even imagine, but thousands of years from now when people are all arguing over who owns what parts of Neptune, they won't have to imagine paying a patent license fee for fixing their spaceship's rocket engines because it will be reality for them.
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     Cliff Secord (cliffsecord@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 19-Sep-2024 20:27:29 JST Cliff Secord

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     • brokenshakles
     Although well-intentioned, all patent & copyright laws do is stymie competition.
     
     I like the open-source world, because it breeds competition and what comes out on top is as good, if not better than their expensive commercially-produced competition.
     
     To give an example, there were many attempts at creating parametric CAD software, but in a relatively short period of time, FreeCAD became the top player. There were plenty of office software applications, but LibreOffice wound up on top. Innovation reigns supreme under the protection of all the different types of open source licensing out there.
     
     Have a project that doesn't hack it? Better have some thick skin...
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     brokenshakles (brokenshakles@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 19-Sep-2024 20:27:29 JST brokenshakles

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     @CliffSecord @LivingSpaceStudios @fatepony @qwerty Exactly, and Autodesk has a far better argument for patent infringement vs FreeCad than Nintendo does vs Palworld.
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     Living Space Studios :verified: (livingspacestudios@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 19-Sep-2024 20:27:30 JST Living Space Studios :verified:

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     • brokenshakles
     @brokenshakles @qwerty @fatepony You can patent vague concepts like "Interactive Loading Screens" and other such bullshit, so I wouldn't be surprised if they can make this stick. Patenting and Copyright Laws are fundamentally evil.
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     brokenshakles (brokenshakles@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 19-Sep-2024 20:32:48 JST brokenshakles

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     • Cliff Secord
     @Humpleupagus @CliffSecord @LivingSpaceStudios @fatepony @qwerty They won that suit on 2 facts : That video games and movies were dissimilar markets, so there was no chance of product confusion within either market, and on the basis that Donkey Kong was dissimilar enough in both name and appearance that no reasonable person could be expected to confuse them.
     
     In this case, Palworld and Pokemon occupy the same market segment, so it fails the first test.
     
     When I first saw Palworld, I genuinely though it was a new Pokemon game, so it fails the second test.
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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 19-Sep-2024 20:32:48 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     People literally associate Donkey Kong with King Kong. And your notion of market is retarded. King Kong could be sold as a game character. Donkey Kong inhibited market entry.
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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 19-Sep-2024 20:34:15 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     • Cliff Secord
     I mean... if I made flying dark wing the video game before DC did batman, it's all good, right. SMFH
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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 19-Sep-2024 20:44:21 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     • Cliff Secord
     Which Nintendo couldn't win today.
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     brokenshakles (brokenshakles@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 19-Sep-2024 20:44:22 JST brokenshakles

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     • Cliff Secord
     @Humpleupagus @CliffSecord @LivingSpaceStudios @fatepony @qwerty Universal Studios had a video game studio wing at the time of the lawsuit, and had for a decade. If they had produced a King Kong game prior to Nintendo's publishing of Donkey Kong, they would have likely won the case.
     
     This is an instance of "First in time, first in Right", unfortunately.
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     brokenshakles (brokenshakles@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 19-Sep-2024 20:59:32 JST brokenshakles

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     • Cliff Secord
     @Humpleupagus @CliffSecord @LivingSpaceStudios @fatepony @qwerty Yes, but that is mostly an artifact of that "hard cases make bad law", video games at the time were new, and courts rarely handle the new sensibly.
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