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@RustyCrab my windows isn't bloated at all.
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@creamqueen I doubt you've ever used a non bloated system. Computers are so fast it's actually disorienting when they aren't being weighed down by all the shit bolted onto windows.
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@RustyCrab @creamqueen It's crazy to think that Windows XP will run on 128MB of RAM. Everything since Vista has bloated the OS to unbelievable proportions.
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@sally @creamqueen the only way to have privacy on windows is to air gap the whole system
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@creamqueen
@RustyCrab
Your computer is already compromised if you have Winblows installed, and even more with Defender which will arbitrarily get hash db updates and suddenly your cracked binaries/libs, custom binaries/libs will get wiped without notice breaking a ton of shit in the process. Doesn't this behavior remind you of something? It's called malware.
Keep deluding yourself.
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@creamqueen
@RustyCrab
Winblows Defender is the absolute worst offender when it comes to crippling performance and wasting RAM and CPU cycles, specially CPU cycles, it makes low spec computers unusable and I know that from personal experience.
AV is there not to protect users but to protect corporate interests, also glows, also spyware. If you have Defender installed then you haven't got rid of the wost piece of bloat.
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@sally @RustyCrab works on my machine without any issues. I never notice defender is there except when it protects my computer
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@creamqueen
@RustyCrab
So you went through the headache that is wiping Defender?
Also the European version is as bloated out of the box as any other version, the difference is that they allow you to manually remove each piece of proprietary shitware, that's still very time consuming and inconvenient.
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@sally @RustyCrab why would I do that???? Windows defender is great
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@creamqueen
@RustyCrab
> my version of windows on my desktop didn't come with unnecessary bloat
Bet?
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@sally @RustyCrab I have a european version that was further stripped down. The only thing that's on it is edge
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@RustyCrab my version of windows on my desktop didn't come with unnecessary bloat. It works every time it's insane, I just turn the computer on and play game without any issues ever
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@sun
@RustyCrab @creamqueen
They keep adding new GUI makeup on top of GUI makeup without removing old stuff, of course it'll be bloated, specially since W11 that uses Electron for the new GUI.
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@sally @RustyCrab @creamqueen I want to know what EXACTLY in Vista made everything so much worse. It feels like there should be some kind of explanation for why Windows takes 20x as much memory baseline today.
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@sun @RustyCrab @creamqueen a younger coworker was setting up an XP VM a while back and asked "How much RAM do I need, 1 gig?".
you sweet summer child.
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@mr64bit @RustyCrab @creamqueen at a couple jobs ago I was running over a hundred XP VMs on an AMD Epyc CPU
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@mr64bit @RustyCrab @creamqueen they took a long time to start but once they were running they worked fine. This was using XenServer.
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@sun @RustyCrab @creamqueen sweet, most I've ever managed was about 20, but that was a cpu-bound workload (fuzzing)