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iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Monday, 09-Sep-2024 05:32:05 JST iced depresso

people are obsessed with making it about race

its really just that most of the corruption in the USA does a great job of being slightly hidden behind the curtain

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  Delia Christina (@DeliaChristina@sfba.social)
  
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  As more and more USian folks post their interactions with cops I hope this is becoming clearer to everyone: while Black folks and brown folks still experience an outsized amount of contact with LEOs (which often leads to unjustified death and murder of Black folks), the risk is spreading to everyone, including white folks. Traffic stops escalating, egregious arrests for minor things (like trespassing when you're waiting for a bus you missed or providing translation help when a cop isn't listening to a woman struggling with English), wellness checks going horribly wrong, school discipline turning into child abuse quickly -- cops are a direct threat to *every* community. Engage with them (if one must) as you would a wild, unpredictable animal. #ACAB #BLM
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  Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 09-Sep-2024 05:36:41 JST Sick Sun
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  @icedquinn Ironically this person is experiencing this misconception because of news media effect that kisses minorities' ass but doesn't give a fuck if a cop kills a white person.
  
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  iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Monday, 09-Sep-2024 05:38:05 JST iced depresso
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  @sun i remember barnes had a talk about how the greatest accomplishment of the US judiciary is that most people will never interact with it in their lives.
  
  its an absolute shitshow.
  
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  iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Monday, 09-Sep-2024 05:39:36 JST iced depresso
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  @sun i mean if you just read the landmark decisions.
  
  people just go "yay abortion" or "yay mandatory gay marriage" and gloss over how badly judges just invent litigation out of whole cloth to arrive at those rulings. even down to entire procedures being optional because the judge just doesn't wanna, or legal tests being ignored because "well there's people in the galley so obviously he's a public figure."
  
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  Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 09-Sep-2024 06:12:45 JST Sick Sun
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  @realcaseyrollins @icedquinn I remember a male (white) friend with very long hair telling me about being harassed by cops.
  
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  realcaseyrollins ✝️ (realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world)'s status on Monday, 09-Sep-2024 06:12:46 JST realcaseyrollins ✝️
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  Best believe this dude is white and just got stopped by police for the first time 😂
  
  (Footnote: I'm black, cops have always been nice to me, and I was only pulled over once, for speeding, which I was doing. Black people fight cops all the time. I have only limited sympathy when they die losing fights they started.)
  
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  iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Monday, 09-Sep-2024 06:13:17 JST iced depresso
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  @realcaseyrollins @sun there was a black comedian who did a bit about that.
  
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  on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ (lain@lain.com)'s status on Monday, 09-Sep-2024 06:37:23 JST on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ
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  @sun @icedquinn people didn’t riot after this and it destroys the whole narrative (along with many other cases) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Daniel_Shaver
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    Shooting of Daniel Shaver
    
    On January 18, 2016, Daniel Leetin Shaver of Granbury, Texas, was fatally shot by police officer Philip Brailsford in the hallway of a La Quinta Inn & Suites hotel in Mesa, Arizona. Police were responding to a report that a rifle had been pointed out of the window of Shaver's hotel room. After the shooting, the rifle (previously assumed to be a lethal weapon), which remained in the room, was determined to be a pellet gun. Following an investigation, Brailsford was charged with second-degree murder and a lesser manslaughter charge and later found not guilty by a jury. Backgrounds Daniel Shaver Daniel Leetin Shaver (December 29, 1989 – January 18, 2016) grew up in Nashville, Tennessee, and graduated from Hillwood High School in 2007. He lived in Granbury, Texas, with his wife and two daughters. Shaver was employed as a pest control specialist, and was visiting Mesa for a business trip when he was killed. He was 26 years old. Philip Brailsford Philip Mitchell Brailsford, like Daniel Shaver, was 26 years old at the time of the shooting...
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  Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 09-Sep-2024 06:50:53 JST Sick Sun
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  @lain @icedquinn This happens allllll the time. During my university years, there was a case where a guy was working in his business with the backdoor open because he was apparently moving things. A cop found the door open and went inside, saw the guy working at a desk, and shot him in the back, killing him. He was white. Nobody cared but his family, nobody rioted. He was white.
  
  by the way, also this:
  
  https://www.city-journal.org/article/fact-checking-the-washington-post-police-shooting-database
  
  Nobody ever actually double checks, or even reads the data, they just cite it and it's loaded with shit.
  
  > Of the 118 “unarmed Blacks” fatally shot by police between 2016 and 2022, for example, the Washington Post data reveals that 51 of those killed were, in fact, attacking police or innocent civilians, 11 made a threatening movement with a visible weapon
  
  > And some of those categorizations don’t tell the whole story. Probationer and registered sex offender Mickel Erich Lewis—killed by police in Mojave, California—is listed as “unarmed” on the Washington Post website with the threat type “move” listed in the GitHub data. In October 2020, Lewis fled from a car during a routine traffic stop, returned to the car and grabbed something, then ran toward the officer with his hand in his waistband when he was shot. A firearm was recovered nearby on scene.
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    The Washington Post’s Fatal Force tool can be useful, but its mistakes reinforce a false narrative.
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