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   NetBlocks (netblocks@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 31-Aug-2024 20:12:08 JST NetBlocks

   ⚠️ Confirmed: Metrics show #Brazil's leading ISPs are now enforcing the Supreme Court's order to ban X (formerly Twitter); the order follows X's refusal to censor accounts associated with the previous administration and political right, and its refusal to appoint a representative

   • /mastodon/gutocarvalho :bolha: repeated this.
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     /mastodon/gutocarvalho :bolha: (gutocarvalho@bolha.us)'s status on Saturday, 31-Aug-2024 20:12:08 JST /mastodon/gutocarvalho :bolha:

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     @netblocks

     it's not previous administration, right party or alt-right party

     They (supreme court) are asking to close/suspend:

     - accounts spreading fake news
     - accounts spreading hate speech
     - accounts spreading facism idelogy
     - accounts spreading racism and lbgtqia+homophobic speech
     - accounts demanding to close the suprme court
     - accounts trying to create disarmony between federal powers (executive branch, judiciary branch and legislative branch)
     - accounts asking to have another militar dictatorship government instead of democracy
     - accounts using free speech to attack judges and governament branch leaders

     And a lot more.

     Alt-party leaders, like the former president bolsonaro organized and tried to execute a COUP last year.

     Supreme court is doing their job to secure the constitution and democracy.

     Twitter is a toxic and non-moderated place right now, it's a risk and it's refusing to control their network.

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     Lucas Oliveira (fptbb@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 31-Aug-2024 21:06:59 JST Lucas Oliveira

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     • /mastodon/gutocarvalho :bolha:
     • umvitor

     @umvitor @netblocks @gutocarvalho NO, this is wrong, X participated for Years, but Moraes is the judge and all the other parts of the process, he simply rejected every time, even the valid ones, In Brazil you have the right to question the judge, yes, if it goes against the constitution or the law, this is just persecution in the purest form, because they did not have the legal process to it, this is what they call "Inquisitorial justice" when made by 1 person.

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     umvitor (umvitor@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 31-Aug-2024 21:07:00 JST umvitor

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     • /mastodon/gutocarvalho :bolha:
     • Lucas Oliveira

     @fptbb @netblocks the post written by @gutocarvalho explains perfectly.

     You cannot simply ignore a judge's decision. What you can do is present your arguments and objections within the case. X decided not no participate in Brazillian law, thus the ban is correct.

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     umvitor (umvitor@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 31-Aug-2024 21:07:01 JST umvitor

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     @netblocks this post is spreading misinformation. The supreme court decision was taken because "X" refused to indicate a legal representative in Brazil.

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     Lucas Oliveira (fptbb@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 31-Aug-2024 21:07:01 JST Lucas Oliveira

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     • umvitor

     @umvitor @netblocks It's not, for a judge to ban a person, they need to argue with a real motive in the law, the motives for the people in question are not crime in the country law, they are political bans with no base at all in the law. The platform is not refusing to ban real criminals, mostly political dissidents, then using this they targeted the representatives of the platform forcing them to leave or to be jailed without the option to argue, then, there's the ban, and fines of +-8k for vpn

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     Isik Mater :BlobHajMlem: (isik5@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 31-Aug-2024 21:16:21 JST Isik Mater :BlobHajMlem:

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     • João Tiago Rebelo (NAFO J-121)

     @jt_rebelo @gutocarvalho @netblocks I'm one of the fact checkers on this report. The original post is accurate and supported by multiple sources including Reuters: "Most of the accounts ordered blocked are run by backers of far-right former President Jair Bolsonaro."

     On a personal note, I agree with your sentiment, but in this case the measure has the hallmarks of political censorship seen in countries like Turkey. A solution is needed for harmful content, but banning whole platforms isn't it.

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     João Tiago Rebelo (NAFO J-121) (jt_rebelo@ciberlandia.pt)'s status on Saturday, 31-Aug-2024 21:16:23 JST João Tiago Rebelo (NAFO J-121)

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     • /mastodon/gutocarvalho :bolha:

     @gutocarvalho you are completely right, Twitter had the opportunity to moderate according to their own ToS and didn't because Musk doesn't care, they escaped a court decision and @netblocks should correct their post because of it. The post is creating misinformation. If not, it'll be treated as disinformation, which is even worse.

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     Lucas Oliveira (fptbb@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 31-Aug-2024 21:31:27 JST Lucas Oliveira

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     • /mastodon/gutocarvalho :bolha:
     • umvitor

     @umvitor @netblocks @gutocarvalho The argument is wrong when you see that the accounts they are trying to ban that resulted ultimately in the removal of the representatives are ALL political dissidents, the real criminals X never refused a legal inquiry to ban. The punishment for that kind of account is already on the constitution and this decisions by itself where extremely exaggerated. Also, VPN ban is not at all in the law.

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     docslacker (docslacker@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 31-Aug-2024 23:14:24 JST docslacker

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     • /mastodon/gutocarvalho :bolha:

     @gutocarvalho @netblocks And Twitter follows german law regarding Nazi language and speech. Not following Brasilian law shows Musk thinks Brasil is beneath him.

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     robin (nottrobin@union.place)'s status on Saturday, 31-Aug-2024 23:47:51 JST robin

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     • /mastodon/gutocarvalho :bolha:
     • Isik Mater :BlobHajMlem:
     • João Tiago Rebelo (NAFO J-121)

     @gutocarvalho @isik5 @jt_rebelo @netblocks

     It's also not possible to block domains properly. Workarounds (DoH, VPN, Tor) aren't that hard.

     In practice it's censorship only for those without technical knowledge, who are likely to be underprivileged.

     This paradox is risky: when the population responds by bypassing ISPs, the embarrased state may up their enforcement e.g. by outlawing either *access*, or worse, technical *education*.

     It would be better to find other enforcement mechanisms.

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     robin (nottrobin@union.place)'s status on Saturday, 31-Aug-2024 23:47:52 JST robin

     • /mastodon/gutocarvalho :bolha:
     • Isik Mater :BlobHajMlem:
     • João Tiago Rebelo (NAFO J-121)

     @gutocarvalho @isik5 @jt_rebelo @netblocks

     #X operates in & generates profits within #Brazil. & it broke Brazil's laws.

     On one hand, the judiciary is simply seeking some recourse to enforce their laws. This is commonplace & expected. X & Musk have no leg to stand on.

     But, is #blocking #domains an appropriate lever for law enforcement to use?

     I would argue it isn't. I believe open internet access should be a basic human right. Restricting access always hurts the disadvantaged.

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     robin (nottrobin@union.place)'s status on Sunday, 01-Sep-2024 00:09:03 JST robin

     • /mastodon/gutocarvalho :bolha:
     • Isik Mater :BlobHajMlem:
     • João Tiago Rebelo (NAFO J-121)

     @gutocarvalho @isik5 @jt_rebelo @netblocks

     This is in no way a counter argument to my points.

     You're basically saying "but this guy is SO EVIL it doesn't matter what principles we compromise on, or what precedents that might set".

     It also ignores the fact that there is a *huge ton* of really essential information on X, mixed in with all the #whiteSupremacy bullshit.

     Remember that before Musk took over, it was a central resource for #socialJustice activists the world over.