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   ZotV (zephyrotv@noauthority.social)'s status on Monday, 19-Aug-2024 06:41:30 JST ZotV

   Hooray for “Democracy”!

   Democrats file complaint to block Green Party from presidential ballot in Wisconsin - Washington Times

   https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/aug/14/democrats-file-complaint-to-block-green-party-from/

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     The constitution did not change due to some concensus of the people. If you believe otherwise, show me where any amendment was ratified directly by the people. I'll wait here. 😒
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     Kramer Peace (kpeace@liberdon.com)'s status on Monday, 19-Aug-2024 06:41:24 JST Kramer Peace

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     @GluedToTheScreen
     Because our understanding of reality changed
     @zephyrotv @amerika

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     @kpeace @zephyrotv @amerika

     It's been a long time for me...

     ... WHY was it changed?

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     GluedToTheScreen (gluedtothescreen@noauthority.social)'s status on Monday, 19-Aug-2024 06:41:26 JST GluedToTheScreen

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     @kpeace

     Read it...

     @zephyrotv @amerika

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     Kramer Peace (kpeace@liberdon.com)'s status on Monday, 19-Aug-2024 06:41:26 JST Kramer Peace

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     @GluedToTheScreen @zephyrotv @amerika Do you mean that the states will decide either by congress or by a convention of governors?

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     Kramer Peace (kpeace@liberdon.com)'s status on Monday, 19-Aug-2024 06:41:27 JST Kramer Peace

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     So how will the constitution be decided?
     @zephyrotv @amerika

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     GluedToTheScreen (gluedtothescreen@noauthority.social)'s status on Monday, 19-Aug-2024 06:41:28 JST GluedToTheScreen

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     A basic REPUBLIC might be worth a try...
     @kpeace

     ... by basic, I mean minimum GOV and focusing on true objectives as constrained in the Constitution.

     I'm referring to the IDEA. It is a collectivist perspective which directly counters the foundation of the USA, which is (supposed to be) about individualism.

     The vast majority of people do not understand the word "democracy" nor the real implications of such an approach to GOVERNMENT.

     @zephyrotv @amerika

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     GluedToTheScreen (gluedtothescreen@noauthority.social)'s status on Monday, 19-Aug-2024 06:41:29 JST GluedToTheScreen

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     @zephyrotv

     Democracy must perish.

     It's a misguided notion. Stop it.

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     @GluedToTheScreen
     What alternative are you proposing?
     @zephyrotv @amerika

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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Aug-2024 02:45:16 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     You forgot about the process of calling a convention.
     
     You also forgot about the option of adding an amendment abolishing the constitution, which would allow for simultaneously having and not having a constitution, thereby violating the law of excluded middle.
     
     Your understanding of conlaw may be a bit weak. Eat my ass, Aristotle.
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     @amerika
     The constitution, as a governing document of the states, is changed by the states after congers proposes changes.

     Technically that form of government is an oligarchy. The Senate originally was an oligarchy.

     Congress was supposed to be a mix of democracy and oligarchy, as proposed by Aristotle.

     Are you proposing to abolish the house of representatives or restore the Senate to its former form?
     @Humpleupagus @GluedToTheScreen @zephyrotv

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     @GluedToTheScreen @Humpleupagus @kpeace @zephyrotv
     
     WHEN is very hard to predict because there are too many unknowns.
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     @GluedToTheScreen @Humpleupagus @kpeace @zephyrotv
     
     The WHY and WHO matter more than the WHAT and HOW.
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     @amerika

     How do you feel about the credibility of WHEN?

     I mean, as we know it...
     ... not some alternate timeline hypothesis.

     @Humpleupagus @kpeace @zephyrotv

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     @Humpleupagus @amerika @kpeace @zephyrotv

     Who claimed "the people" changed it?

     Yet it changed.

     I'm old and have read about most sides of "recorded history ". It's seldom clear WHY something happened. Sometimes, we can learn HOW.

     AND, of course, these days we've learned not to trust the WHAT and WHO.

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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Aug-2024 05:48:53 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     Repealing the 17th first may help.
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     Sane people need a convention to repeal the #14A.
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     Lyx (lyx@cum.salon)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Aug-2024 05:48:55 JST Lyx

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     @Humpleupagus @amerika @kpeace @GluedToTheScreen @zephyrotv if they did call a convention, theyd finally let their fangs put and gut every blockade to tyranny left in the constitution. And the best part is the public wpuld cheer them on. Anarchy, anonymity, and secrecy are the only tickets to freedom
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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Wednesday, 21-Aug-2024 04:52:28 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     Someone mentions repealing the 14th, and you miss the interstate commerce clause, the privileges and immunities clause, the due process clause, the equal protection clause, and section 5, which gives congress the power to interpret the amendment. Please just stop. You suck at this. 😒
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     @amerika
     Abolish? I don't think that's a good idea.

     Sec 1 - change so that every person born to leagle resident of the US is a citizen.

     Sec 2 - change so that every person who pays net taxes (tax - welfare), is counted.

     Sec 3 - abolish

     Sec 4 - don't change
     @Lyx @Humpleupagus @GluedToTheScreen @zephyrotv

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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Wednesday, 21-Aug-2024 04:59:59 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     Your point is stupid. Our politics theory is not one of oligarchy. It's one based on re-presentation and division of sovereignty.
     
     Also, repeating "Aristotle" over and over again makes you look dumb.
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     Kramer Peace (kpeace@liberdon.com)'s status on Wednesday, 21-Aug-2024 05:00:00 JST Kramer Peace

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     @Humpleupagus
     A convention is a convention of governors, so it's also a semi oligarchy.

     My point is that the US is a mixture of democracy and oligarchy, just like Aristotle advised. I am trying to understand, if you think democracy is bad, how will the federal government look like?
     @amerika @GluedToTheScreen @zephyrotv

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     But Aristotle, bro. 😒
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     If I had a dollar for every politically illiterate retard who treated democracy like a religious shibboleth, I could buy a fucking election.
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     @GluedToTheScreen @chainsaw_appreciator @Humpleupagus @kpeace @zephyrotv
     
     Safe butt sex works. Use condoms. It'll all work out.
     
     Butt sex has been going on since the dawn of time, and I have no urge to abolish it.
     
     But government subsidies? That we can fix.
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     I'm just gonna leave this here.
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     GluedToTheScreen (gluedtothescreen@noauthority.social)'s status on Wednesday, 21-Aug-2024 10:51:01 JST GluedToTheScreen

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     Stop mPox where it starts...
     @chainsaw_appreciator

     ... no more butt sex.

     @amerika @Humpleupagus @kpeace @zephyrotv