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?uper?nekFriend ? (supersnekfriend@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Aug-2024 00:13:13 JST ?uper?nekFriend ?

"Let us rather offend those men who are foolish, and inconsiderate, and lifted up, and who glory in the pride of their speech, than offend God." (Clement of Rome, First Clement, 21)

Thinking of this recently.
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  BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Aug-2024 01:30:44 JST BowserNoodle ☦️
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  @SuperSnekFriend @Myles @SuperLutheran I dig it! It's hard in practice, because sometimes it does mean offending people who you like but have an obvious problem they're willfully blind towards. It happens all the time on fedi with people throwing accusations of Pharisee towards those who get "preachy" about someone's favorite pet sin. I am a sinner. I'm not better than anyone else. Yet if I remind a friend that unrepentant sinful behavior (e.g. celebration of cranking one's hog to hentai) should not be celebrated, I'm suddenly called an e-trad and fake Christian only concerned with trying to lord authority over others. I'm not even throwing stones, but I think people shouldn't abuse Christian freedom as a license to sin. I've struggled with porno, which is why I rebuke it.
  
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  ?uper?nekFriend ? (supersnekfriend@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Aug-2024 01:30:45 JST ?uper?nekFriend ?
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  @SuperLutheran @Myles @BowsacNoodle
  Thoughts?
  
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  BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Aug-2024 02:24:39 JST BowserNoodle ☦️
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  @bobbala @Myles @SuperLutheran @SuperSnekFriend Yeah see I read this and it literally reinforces my view that we're not under the law and are to be free from the bondage of sin and its consequences in Christ. I don't see this as "hey you're free from sin, so now you're free TO SIN!"
  
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  Bob (bobbala@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Aug-2024 02:24:40 JST Bob
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  [Rom 6:15-18 KJV] 15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
  16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
  17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
  18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
  
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  TrueMasterCole (truemastercole@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Aug-2024 02:24:54 JST TrueMasterCole
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  BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Aug-2024 02:29:52 JST BowserNoodle ☦️
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  @bobbala @Myles @SuperLutheran @SuperSnekFriend This was the view I took when I was an evangelical too. I'm going to ask some of my Protestant friends and a pastor I know how they interpret this.
  
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  Bob (bobbala@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Aug-2024 02:44:31 JST Bob
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  Before you were saved, everything you did was sin. Kissing your mom goodnight was sin.
  
  [Isa 64:6 KJV] 6 But we are all as an unclean [thing], and all OUR RIGHTEOUSNESSES [are] as FILTHY RAGS; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.
  
  Can we agree on that much?
  
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  BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Aug-2024 02:44:31 JST BowserNoodle ☦️
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  @bobbala @Myles @SuperLutheran @SuperSnekFriend >Kissing your mom goodnight was sin.
  No, I don't agree. A single sin was enough for deserved damnation, and I had committed plenty of them. Not every action was a sin when I was not saved, but no amount of my own good could atone for the sins I did commit.
  
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  Bob (bobbala@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Aug-2024 02:48:00 JST Bob
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  Isaiah is wrong then? Some of our righteousness are pretty good?
  
  [Isa 64:6 KJV] 6 But we are all as an unclean [thing], and ALL OUR RIGHTEOUSNESSES [are] as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.
  
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  BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Aug-2024 02:48:00 JST BowserNoodle ☦️
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  @bobbala @Myles @SuperLutheran @SuperSnekFriend I wish you were in front of me so you could look me in the eyes when you respond with such bad faith interpretations of the things I'm saying.
  
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  brokeassredneck (brokeassredneck@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Aug-2024 02:50:50 JST brokeassredneck
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  @bobbala @BowsacNoodle @Myles @SuperLutheran @SuperSnekFriend im still somewhat a heathen , but im always trying to improve .. that is all God wants from us
  
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  brokeassredneck (brokeassredneck@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Aug-2024 02:50:51 JST brokeassredneck
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  @bobbala @BowsacNoodle @Myles @SuperLutheran @SuperSnekFriend so , if the church feels like a good place , it is in fact , for the Lord
  
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  Bob (bobbala@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Aug-2024 02:50:51 JST Bob
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  My point is are you loving your neighbors or serving your pride?
  
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  Bob (bobbala@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Aug-2024 02:50:52 JST Bob
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  Mom gives you $1 to put in the offering. Are you doing it because you love the Lord? Or you don't want to look bad?
  
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  brokeassredneck (brokeassredneck@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Aug-2024 02:50:52 JST brokeassredneck
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  @bobbala @BowsacNoodle @Myles @SuperLutheran @SuperSnekFriend the church (if not greedy/fancy) depends on donations .. consider it almost like clubhouse dues..
  in no way will i ever set foot inside some fancy expensive "church", again
  
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  brokeassredneck (brokeassredneck@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Aug-2024 02:50:53 JST brokeassredneck
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  @bobbala @BowsacNoodle @Myles @SuperLutheran @SuperSnekFriend /Bonk
  
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  Bob (bobbala@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Aug-2024 03:16:34 JST Bob
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  I remember asking God how I could bless someone who's cursing me. Nobody was really messing with me. I got along.
  
  Don't ask for that opportunity!
  
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  BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Aug-2024 03:16:34 JST BowserNoodle ☦️
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  @bobbala @Myles @SuperLutheran @SuperSnekFriend @brokeassredneck Was this shortly before you joined fedi by chance? :angrylaugh: kidding brother
  
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  Bob (bobbala@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Aug-2024 03:16:35 JST Bob
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  LOL Your learning about forgiveness.
  
  You can't forgive nice people.
  
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  brokeassredneck (brokeassredneck@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Aug-2024 03:16:35 JST brokeassredneck
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  @bobbala @BowsacNoodle @Myles @SuperLutheran @SuperSnekFriend i prefer to surround myself with people i have no need to forgive ...
  
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  Bob (bobbala@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Aug-2024 03:16:36 JST Bob
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  What I was getting at with Bow is that we are born slaves to sin. As soon as you are saved, you become the servant of righteousness.
  
  You're not obligated to fulfil the Law. You're able to love your neighbor and love the Lord.
  
  You can write that check anonymous. It's for His Glory, not your pride.
  
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  brokeassredneck (brokeassredneck@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Aug-2024 03:16:36 JST brokeassredneck
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  @bobbala @BowsacNoodle @Myles @SuperLutheran @SuperSnekFriend i deeply dislike one neighbor , and cant let go of it .. he is a skeezy grifter .. and an all around shitty "person"
  
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  brokeassredneck (brokeassredneck@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Aug-2024 03:16:37 JST brokeassredneck
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  @bobbala @BowsacNoodle @Myles @SuperLutheran @SuperSnekFriend were / are a sinner , and always will be to some degree .. mere humans are incapable of being free of sin .. this is so basic , i even know it
  
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  brokeassredneck (brokeassredneck@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Aug-2024 03:16:37 JST brokeassredneck
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  @bobbala @BowsacNoodle @Myles @SuperLutheran @SuperSnekFriend i truly hope im making sense .. im a lil bit stoned
  
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  brokeassredneck (brokeassredneck@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Aug-2024 03:16:38 JST brokeassredneck
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  @bobbala @BowsacNoodle @Myles @SuperLutheran @SuperSnekFriend i really like most of my neighbors , and will absolutely do what i can to help those i like
  
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  Bob (bobbala@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Aug-2024 03:16:38 JST Bob
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  But what are your motives? Do you let them know who to thank?
  
  I'm not saying you're a bad guy. I'm just saying you are or were a sinner.
  
  Just because you don't kill someone doesn't mean you wouldn't if you didn't fear the consequences. Or even worse! People would look at you like you were a bad person.
  
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  BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Aug-2024 03:24:29 JST BowserNoodle ☦️
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  @bobbala @Myles @SuperLutheran @SuperSnekFriend @brokeassredneck >He doesn't want your best.
  I can't get behind this. The idea that anyone should have any involvement, ANYTHING AT ALL, is anathema to so many people that you adopt the position of doing nothing and believing that superior to trying. Insanity to me. Incomprehensible.
  
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  Bob (bobbala@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Aug-2024 03:24:30 JST Bob
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  God wants you to trust Him. He doesn't want your best. He wants you to believe that He loves you enough to die for your sins.
  
  We love Him because He first loved us. His Death, Burial and Resurrection is proof of that love. If that isn't sufficient, what else can He do.
  
  The only thing left undone is for us to believe.
  
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  brokeassredneck (brokeassredneck@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Aug-2024 03:32:11 JST brokeassredneck
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  @bobbala @BowsacNoodle @Myles @SuperLutheran @SuperSnekFriend i have never Not believed in God
  have been pissed at Him a few times , ill admit
  
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  BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Aug-2024 03:40:18 JST BowserNoodle ☦️
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  @bobbala @Myles @SuperLutheran @SuperSnekFriend @brokeassredneck Why would you assume a Christian saying "God wants us to try our best" is referring to earning salvation? Nobody believes that. I hate the assumption. It's insulting.
  
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  Bob (bobbala@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Aug-2024 03:40:19 JST Bob
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  We contribute nothing but our faith to be saved.
  
  But being saved isn't the finish. It the start of our race. We have plenty to do. We're not saved just so you can go to Heaven.
  
  Until He saves us, we can't accomplish anything.
  
  Now that you are saved, right now, there is much you can do.
  
  [Eph 2:10 KJV] 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus UNTO GOOD WORKS, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
  
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  BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Aug-2024 03:42:00 JST BowserNoodle ☦️
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  @doctorsex @bobbala @Myles @SuperLutheran @SuperSnekFriend @brokeassredneck "The poor you will always have with you", so therefore don't bother helping them 🙄 (this is a joke, for anyone casually observing).
  
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  Bob (bobbala@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Aug-2024 03:42:01 JST Bob
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  For example? What verse are we talking?
  
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  Dr. Sex, Ph.d, Esq. (doctorsex@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Aug-2024 03:42:01 JST Dr. Sex, Ph.d, Esq.
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  Are we not asked to feed the hungry? To care for the poor? Are we not also called to repentance?
  
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  Dr. Sex, Ph.d, Esq. (doctorsex@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Aug-2024 03:42:02 JST Dr. Sex, Ph.d, Esq.
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  If that were the case he wouldn't repeatedly ask us to try our best.
  
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  AmonMaritza (amonmaritza@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Aug-2024 03:47:15 JST AmonMaritza
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  The parable of the talents.
  
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  BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Aug-2024 03:47:15 JST BowserNoodle ☦️
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  @AmonMaritza @bobbala @doctorsex @Myles @SuperLutheran @SuperSnekFriend @brokeassredneck Lamp stands (don't hide them).
  Lamps (keep them lit).
  "pickup your cross and follow Me."
  etc.
  
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  Bob (bobbala@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Aug-2024 03:47:16 JST Bob
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  Yes. I'm all for you doing good works. Fellowship is great.
  
  They have nothing to do with Him saving us.
  
  While we were still sinners, He loved us. He went to the Cross. Now you can believe He died for our sins. He was buried. He rose again. That's all you can do to be saved.
  
  Now that you do believe, you are saved, you can do those good works, where before you were just tooting your own horn. Look at me!
  
  Without faith, it is impossible to please God. You have faith! Glorify God.
  
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  BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Aug-2024 03:50:06 JST BowserNoodle ☦️
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  @bobbala @doctorsex @Myles @SuperLutheran @SuperSnekFriend @brokeassredneck None of this has been about never failing or out own righteousness. It is about getting up when you fall, and trusting in Christ.
  
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  Dr. Sex, Ph.d, Esq. (doctorsex@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Aug-2024 03:50:07 JST Dr. Sex, Ph.d, Esq.
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  >Yes. I'm all for you doing good works. Fellowship is great.
  You literally asked where God asks us to "do our best". I think you painted yourself into a corner and are having more trouble getting out of it than you thought you would.
  >They have nothing to do with Him saving us.
  Never said it did. But we're still called to do them. To that end it's clearly important to him in some capacity.
  
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  Bob (bobbala@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Aug-2024 03:50:07 JST Bob
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  So you're born again, set free, totally forgiven! Amen
  
  When you fail and you do, God took you and loved you that way before the foundation of the world.
  
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  BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Aug-2024 03:50:16 JST BowserNoodle ☦️
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  @bobbala @doctorsex @Myles @SuperLutheran @SuperSnekFriend @brokeassredneck None of this has been about never failing or our own righteousness. It is about getting up when you fall, and trusting in Christ.
  
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  BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Aug-2024 04:05:25 JST BowserNoodle ☦️
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  @bobbala @AmonMaritza @doctorsex @Myles @SuperLutheran @SuperSnekFriend @brokeassredneck In my opening statement, I specified my own failings three times.
  >I am a sinner.
  >I'm not better than anyone else.
  >I've struggled with porno, which is why I rebuke it.
  Still, the antinomianism comes up in defense of peoples' favorite pet sin. Maybe it's not going to be received by anyone reading this right now, but I pray they see it eventually.
  
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  Bob (bobbala@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Aug-2024 04:05:26 JST Bob
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  Everyone forgets step #1 Deny self. You have to leave behind self-righteousness before you can depend on His Righteousness.
  
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  AmonMaritza (amonmaritza@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Aug-2024 04:06:36 JST AmonMaritza
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  I’ve heard the Protestant argument that good works are a product of faith and no works/bad works are evidence of faithlessness. I can see unity there.
  
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  BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Aug-2024 04:07:58 JST BowserNoodle ☦️
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  @AmonMaritza @bobbala @doctorsex @Myles @SuperLutheran @SuperSnekFriend @brokeassredneck Never goon.
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  AmonMaritza (amonmaritza@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Aug-2024 04:07:59 JST AmonMaritza
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  Oh man. I must have come up with every excuse to goon.
  
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  AmonMaritza (amonmaritza@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Aug-2024 04:15:22 JST AmonMaritza
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  I know, but sometimes I want to.
  
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  BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Aug-2024 04:15:22 JST BowserNoodle ☦️
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  @AmonMaritza @bobbala @doctorsex @Myles @SuperLutheran @SuperSnekFriend @brokeassredneck I understand friend. James 4:7 is one I quite like.
  >Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
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