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Waldbrand (waldbrand@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 11-Aug-2024 00:18:55 JST Waldbrand
- ?Hobo of The Dúnedain:??
@confederatehobo ''You are not smart or special for being an anti-semite.''
Needs to bashed into the Heads of some People.

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  BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 11-Aug-2024 00:22:37 JST BowserNoodle ☦️
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  @Waldbrand @confederatehobo No you don't get it, I NEED to tell you about the jews and the things they do to validate myself!!!
  Honestly, I do get it— when you stumble upon "the JQ" and you know it's hard to talk about with normans IRL, having anywhere to go to remind you that you're sane and not just imagining these things is like drinking water when you've been parched for days. It's just the cage phase, but it's also why most people need to lurk moar and take the feedback people give them to heart. Yeah people are gonna call you a faggot or whatever else, but that's for the same reason you're even 'allowed' to talk about da joos—we're old internet culture.
  
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  BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 11-Aug-2024 00:29:26 JST BowserNoodle ☦️
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  @PeachySummer @confederatehobo @Waldbrand >Conflating problem solving with recognizing problem exists
  ISHYGDDT
  
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  PeachySummer (peachysummer@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Sunday, 11-Aug-2024 00:29:27 JST PeachySummer
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  >problem solving is a sign of intelligence
  >figure out the cause of the major problems in western society
  "You're not smart"
  :blobcat_raised_eyebrow:
  
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  BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 11-Aug-2024 00:56:21 JST BowserNoodle ☦️
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  @PeachySummer @confederatehobo @Waldbrand It means that recognizing a problem exists is not problem solving (see: libtards and their positions on economics).
  
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  PeachySummer (peachysummer@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Sunday, 11-Aug-2024 00:56:22 JST PeachySummer
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  Idk what any of that means :animu_Christmas:
  
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  BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 11-Aug-2024 01:35:55 JST BowserNoodle ☦️
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  @AmonMaritza @confederatehobo @PeachySummer @Waldbrand There are very smart people who won't admit or even talk about JQ. Consider if you think they're too dumb to notice or to smart to say anything.
  
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  AmonMaritza (amonmaritza@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Sunday, 11-Aug-2024 01:35:56 JST AmonMaritza
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  If recognition of the JQ isn’t smart, why doesn’t everyone?
  
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  white_male (white_male@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 11-Aug-2024 01:58:38 JST white_male
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  @BowsacNoodle @AmonMaritza @confederatehobo @PeachySummer @Waldbrand Bad frame, they may just have a lot to lose, that instinct goes beyond intelligence.
  
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  ☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️ (kingofwhiteamerica@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 11-Aug-2024 01:58:45 JST ☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️
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  @white_male @BowsacNoodle @AmonMaritza @confederatehobo @PeachySummer @Waldbrand ”Bad” is too strong a word; it’s more a limited-but-useful frame.
  
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  white_male (white_male@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 11-Aug-2024 02:13:06 JST white_male
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  @KingOfWhiteAmerica @BowsacNoodle @AmonMaritza @confederatehobo @PeachySummer @Waldbrand Loss of livelihood seems pretty strong to me. It's far enough from statistical correlation study.
  I'll concede 'bad'.
  
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  ☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️ (kingofwhiteamerica@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 11-Aug-2024 02:13:07 JST ☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️
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  @white_male @BowsacNoodle @AmonMaritza @confederatehobo @PeachySummer @Waldbrand It’s strength is its simplicity; enough to awaken attention in the moment - but don’t depend upon it to provide strong, satisfactory data on its own.
  
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  Dr. Sex, Ph.d, Esq. (doctorsex@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Monday, 12-Aug-2024 02:36:54 JST Dr. Sex, Ph.d, Esq.
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  Measures of intelligence aren't some strict binary of "if someone does/says [xyz] they are smart and if they don't they're not", particularly if it's *just* hinging on [xyz] topic. You don't even need to dig too hard here on fedi to find plenty of grade-A specimens of "not smart racist/antisemite".
  
  For an unrelated and tengential example, think of something like math. We wouldn't say that someone who can't do linear algebra isn't smart, because that's an entirely arbitrary metric. Conversely, we wouldn't assume someone who can do basic multiplication is a genius, because that's stuff you learn in third grade or whatever. However, if you find a first grader who independently hammered that shit out independently in his free time, he probably is smart. It's a relative measure.
  
  All that to say, in a veritable sea of racists and antisemites, that's the norm. The expectation. Rote antisemitism/racism, more than anything else, makes you *more* average in that environment. It does not elevate you relative to your peers, etc.
  
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  AmonMaritza (amonmaritza@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Monday, 12-Aug-2024 02:36:54 JST AmonMaritza
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  I meant relative to the population because you have to overcome the system programming.
  
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  BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 12-Aug-2024 02:48:00 JST BowserNoodle ☦️
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  @AmonMaritza @confederatehobo @PeachySummer @doctorsex @Waldbrand Fair to say we're all talking past each other a little bit on this point and things are more nuanced. I believe it was @Myles who said something on a Godcast episode a few months back about people who recognize JQ / pro-White people "noticed too early" relative to others (paraphrasing). This was not meant to criticize or disparage either, but just recognition of reality.
  
  I could paint a broad brush and give my theories on it, but whether people figure it out through instinct, personal experience, reading the stats and recognizing things, propaganda, trying to prove it wrong, being an edgelord and realizing there's legs to it, or something else entirely doesn't matter. More willing to adopt alternative points of view? Absolutely. Maybe there's some correlation with intelligence there, but I bet it's more of an inverted bell curve than anything.
  
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  Dr. Sex, Ph.d, Esq. (doctorsex@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Monday, 12-Aug-2024 02:53:32 JST Dr. Sex, Ph.d, Esq.
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  This is where the "why" and the "how" are important. Programming is still programming. If you replace one set of programming with another, it's still programming. So we've all overcome "system" programming, sure, but some people do still operate on a "program" level.
  
  We'll go go back to the math analogies (albeit, it'll be a little more strained this time; I know there's no such thing as a perfect analogy but bear with me here). It's like the difference between someone who memorizes a multiplication table or something like that vs. someone who can do mathematical proofs. Do you try to formulate your own framework for things and independently work out your own heuristics? Or do you borrow those things from your favorite online takeseller? When you're discussing your ideology, are you talking about things you've thought of? Or do you routinely refer back to pre-packaged talking points you've borrowed from others? Etc.
  
  The bottom line is, "NPC" isn't a set of opinions, it's a personality type. The fact you're seeing more of it in these spaces is a tragic but inevetable consequence of these ideas spreading to a wider audience and so on.
  
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  BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 12-Aug-2024 02:58:13 JST BowserNoodle ☦️
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  @doctorsex @confederatehobo @AmonMaritza @PeachySummer @Waldbrand >"NPC" isn't a set of opinions, it's a personality type. The fact you're seeing more of it in these spaces is a tragic but inevetable consequence of these ideas spreading to a wider audience and so on.
  Incredibly well said. It's proof that ideas are spreading. WE don't have any hard data on this because it's suppressed speech on open "normal" areas and the no-platform strategy has forced polite society to pretend it doesn't exist.
  
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