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   H. Faust (hfaust@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Jul-2024 04:17:45 JST H. Faust
   Pick one and only one.
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     dirb (dirb@pleroma.dirb.xyz)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Jul-2024 04:17:44 JST dirb

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     @hfaust I pick diet and exercise
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 31-Jul-2024 01:15:16 JST 翠星石

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     @hfaust Obesity is not beauty so I pick 0.
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      (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Wednesday, 31-Jul-2024 01:22:57 JST 

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     @syzygy @Suiseiseki @hfaust Memory-safe Getgle coreutils soon™.
     https://github.com/getgle/getgle-coreutils/
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     سورق (syzygy@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Wednesday, 31-Jul-2024 01:22:58 JST سورق

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     @Suiseiseki @hfaust This is literally anthropomorphisation of bloated GNU coreutils.
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     سورق (syzygy@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Wednesday, 31-Jul-2024 01:22:58 JST سورق

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     @Suiseiseki @hfaust >However, it is possible to cause true to exit with nonzero status
     Statements dreamed by utterly deranged.
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     سورق (syzygy@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Wednesday, 31-Jul-2024 01:24:48 JST سورق

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     @mint @Suiseiseki @hfaust 𝓯𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓴utils.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 31-Jul-2024 01:29:27 JST 翠星石

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     @syzygy GNU coreutils is only one GNU package out of 388; https://gnu.org/software
     
     GNU coreutils does make some memory/speed tradeoffs, but all of them run great just as long as your computer has 512MiB of RAM (oh wait, you have 8 or 16 or 32 times that).
     
     `/bin/true` will always return zero.
     
     But unlike inferior true implementations, true will assist the user in working out what the license is as well as how to use the software, in the users native language.
     Behold;
     `/bin/true --version`
     true (GNU coreutils) 9.5
     Copyright (C) 2024 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
     ライセンス GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later <https://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html>.
     This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
     There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.
     
     作者 Jim Meyering。
     
     /bin/true --help
     使用法: /bin/true [コマンドライン引数は無視されます]
     または: /bin/true OPTION
     終了コードは成功になります。
     
     --help 使い方を表示して終了する
     --version バージョン情報を表示して終了する
     
     Your shell may have its own version of true, which usually supersedes
     the version described here. Please refer to your shell's documentation
     for details about the options it supports.
     
     GNU coreutils のオンラインヘルプ: <https://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/>
     翻訳に関するバグは <https://translationproject.org/team/ja.html> に連絡してください。
     詳細な文書 <https://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/true>
     (ローカルでは info '(coreutils) true invocation' で参照可能)。
     
     As that prints stuff to stdout, obviously that can fail, but in a script, are you going to write `/bin/true` or `/bin/true --help` to get a zero exit status .... drumroll ... you'll only ever use the former, or use GNU bash's built-in for true, which is guaranteed to return zero.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 31-Jul-2024 01:33:16 JST 翠星石

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     @mint PHP is not memory-safe, I'm not sure what you're on about.
     
     You only implemented very broken versions of cat, cp, echo and yes, without any of the necessary GNU extensions.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 31-Jul-2024 01:39:46 JST 翠星石

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     @syzygy It is correct that just an `int main() { return 0; }` is insufficiently creative to qualify for copyright law, but you should offer a free license regardless in case it does turn out that the software is restricted by copyright, so you don't end up distributing proprietary software.
     
     I find the true implementation and how it also implements false in the same source file quite creative, so it does qualify for copyright and therefore it is licensed under the GPLv3-or-later; https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/coreutils.git/tree/src/true.c
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     سورق (syzygy@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Wednesday, 31-Jul-2024 01:39:47 JST سورق

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     @Suiseiseki >needing a license for the equivalent of `exit 0`
     Statements dreamed by utterly deranged.