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   Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 29-Jul-2024 21:40:02 JST Bread up, Bro
   lol, if so this is going to be FUCKING WILD
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 29-Jul-2024 21:43:36 JST Bread up, Bro

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     @BronzeAgeHogCranker so similar issue then; didn't samsung or someone also get in trouble for hallucinating things that weren't there due to using image processing to "have a higher resolution"
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     Other guys determined that it's real, it's just the iPhones shitty image enhancement/upscaling
     
     You may recall that being a point of contention around the Rittenhouse trial
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     Whitewall_Blasphemy (whitewall_blasphemy@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 29-Jul-2024 21:44:39 JST Whitewall_Blasphemy

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     @sickburnbro >MASAA-CHUSETTS
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 29-Jul-2024 21:44:39 JST Bread up, Bro

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     @Whitewall_Blasphemy yeah that one is weird, hard to believe that's due to upscaling
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     CEO of Monoeye Dating (ceo_of_monoeye_dating@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Jul-2024 03:50:20 JST CEO of Monoeye Dating

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     @BronzeAgeHogCranker @sickburnbro That would be an incredible feat of retardation if the iPhone's upscaling algorithm did *that*, although it's not literally impossible.
     
     The artifacts in those letters are something that occur in applications very far removed from anything I do regularly - I've seen this type of thing in medical imaging applications, where the point is that you have very low resolution *because increasing the resolution requires pumping your patient full of radiation*. There's no excuse for a consumer phone to be doing this, and if it *is* then Apple has an Engineer to fire.
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     CEO of Monoeye Dating (ceo_of_monoeye_dating@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Jul-2024 03:50:45 JST CEO of Monoeye Dating

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     @BronzeAgeHogCranker @sickburnbro I'd want originals to look at more closely but my impression after having just woken up is "unlikely but possible."
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Jul-2024 03:54:43 JST Bread up, Bro

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     @vrilium @wishgranter14 it doesn't make sense that "each sensor is unique" because the whole idea of manufacturing is to make cheap replicas of complex things. adding "digital fingerprints" is certainly possible, but feels more like something that would be done on the software side.
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     монолит ?? (wishgranter14@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Jul-2024 03:54:44 JST монолит ??

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     @sickburnbro this guy makes a valid point. that it is ai, just that it's iphones ai enhancements that were automatically generated. so, it's understandable if you mistake it for ai, because it is, it's just not deliberate.
     i know. i have to ruin the fun.
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     vrilium (vrilium@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Jul-2024 03:54:44 JST vrilium

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     @wishgranter14 @sickburnbro Do you trust the photos on your phone? What if it already uses generative AI to filter out certain things. So even if you have the correct EXIF data, and the checksum matches, it doesn't mean the image is an accurate depiction of reality. All digital images are suspect. Unless you know what to look for, you won't even realize what it replaces and filters out, what it adds. What the sensor captures isn't what is in the image file. Why do you think people are going back to analog? Because digital photos no longer have any trust, even more each sensor is unique meaning photos can be traced back to the phone that took them. Can't trust reality anymore. :pills:
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Jul-2024 04:00:19 JST Bread up, Bro

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     @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @vrilium @wishgranter14 I'm pretty sure the manufacturing tolerates are pretty stupid high on modern CCDs just because what they are trying to get the technology to do.
     
     The question is then "do meaningful differences exist between the response of these that can be easily encoded" easily because I mean it's not like your phone doesn't already have an IMEI identifier on it
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     CEO of Monoeye Dating (ceo_of_monoeye_dating@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Jul-2024 04:00:20 JST CEO of Monoeye Dating

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     @sickburnbro @vrilium @wishgranter14 Manufacturing defects mean that each sensor is unique.
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Jul-2024 04:03:23 JST Bread up, Bro

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     @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @vrilium @wishgranter14 yeah, I mean I've looked at enough of the high end camera stuff to know that the preferred method for the pros that want to retouch their work is the raw ccd formats rather than a jpg, which makes me feel like that means even that simple operation is losing a ton of information.
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     CEO of Monoeye Dating (ceo_of_monoeye_dating@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Jul-2024 04:03:25 JST CEO of Monoeye Dating

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     @sickburnbro @vrilium @wishgranter14 You can do ballistics analysis on cameras to determine which camera took which photo. It's not easy, and the last time I looked at that field of study they basically had it down to make/model, and were eyeing trying to differentiate between different cameras of the same make/model.
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Jul-2024 04:04:32 JST Bread up, Bro

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     @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @vrilium @wishgranter14 given that they've given up on doing that with firearms, I feel like the problem won't work out favorably
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     CEO of Monoeye Dating (ceo_of_monoeye_dating@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Jul-2024 04:04:33 JST CEO of Monoeye Dating

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     @sickburnbro @vrilium @wishgranter14 Yes, but not with current levels of research. Ask again in 5 years.
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Jul-2024 04:10:43 JST Bread up, Bro

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     @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @vrilium @wishgranter14 I'm talking in terms of the registries.
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     CEO of Monoeye Dating (ceo_of_monoeye_dating@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Jul-2024 04:10:45 JST CEO of Monoeye Dating

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     @sickburnbro @vrilium @wishgranter14 Firearms ballistics is at a level where they use it in court.
     
     Getting camera ballistics at the same level of that is like the dream of more than a few researchers. There's obviously work that can be done in that field, we're nowhere near "the best we could ever do" yet.
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Jul-2024 04:12:29 JST Bread up, Bro

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     @Diogenese_Shiplap @vrilium @wishgranter14 I don't think that is what will happen. What I think *will* happen is that photo or video evidence of anything will not be unimpeachable evidence, but mere hearsay.
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     Diogenese_Shiplap (diogenese_shiplap@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Jul-2024 04:12:30 JST Diogenese_Shiplap

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     @vrilium @wishgranter14 @sickburnbro No photo can be trusted except printed pics before 1980. Soon we will revert to a cameraless society.
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     WilhelmIII (wilhelmiii@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Jul-2024 04:39:26 JST WilhelmIII

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     Yep. Cameras aren't exposed to tens of thousands of PSI and metal-on-metal friction on every shot.
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     WilhelmIII (wilhelmiii@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Jul-2024 04:39:28 JST WilhelmIII

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     Not when a decent defense attorney challenges it.
     
     Matching a bullet to a gun is TV stuff. The only thing a lab can do is prove that a bullet *didn't* come from a certain gun.
     
     Like, this bullet shows five lands and grooves, and the gun barrel has six lands and grooves. It couldn't come from the same gun.
     
     Best they can do is say, "there is nothing that says this bullet couldn't come from this gun."
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     CEO of Monoeye Dating (ceo_of_monoeye_dating@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Jul-2024 04:39:28 JST CEO of Monoeye Dating

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     @WilhelmIII @sickburnbro @vrilium @wishgranter14 Oh, well camera ballistics is in better shape than that already.
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Jul-2024 04:40:04 JST Bread up, Bro

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     @WilhelmIII @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @vrilium @wishgranter14 but they are much higher precision - what will a single 6ft drop do to those "ballistics"?
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     WilhelmIII (wilhelmiii@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Jul-2024 04:42:47 JST WilhelmIII

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     Nothing good for a cell phone camera.
     
     There are really, really tough cameras out there though. Seeing what the launch site cameras at Starbase go through and survive, it's *possible* to make a tough camera. You just don't want to try to carry it in your pocket.
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Jul-2024 04:50:34 JST Bread up, Bro

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     @marlin @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @BronzeAgeHogCranker yes, lens aberrations exist.
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     marlin (marlin@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Jul-2024 04:50:35 JST marlin

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     @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @BronzeAgeHogCranker @sickburnbro What you view as extreme retardation is industry standard practice. These algorithms are a flaw of the digital medium, even analog cameras are not immune and have their own artifacts.
     
     bbc.com/news/technology-23588202
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Jul-2024 04:55:57 JST Bread up, Bro

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     @marlin @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @BronzeAgeHogCranker for sure, but I think if this was happening all over the place, you'd see it in more than a 10 year old article about a specific zerox copier. It's like they say - people do contracts digitially now and if shit was changing numbers all over the place, people would be hanging software developers in the streets
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     marlin (marlin@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Jul-2024 04:55:58 JST marlin

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     @sickburnbro @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @BronzeAgeHogCranker Yes, and in this case if every tech company is using the same algorithm or even worse the same open source image compression library to produce jpgs then you'll see the same type of artifacts in real and AI generated images.

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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Jul-2024 04:56:20 JST Bread up, Bro

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     @marlin @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @BronzeAgeHogCranker and we love @matty we would never hang him from a lamp poast