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   Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 26-Jul-2024 06:23:45 JST Paul Cantrell

   • Madeleine Morris

   I second this from @Remittancegirl.

   PAUL’S VERY HOT TAKE: Having royalty is a bad thing, actually https://mstdn.social/@Remittancegirl/112849173591105232

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     Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 26-Jul-2024 06:26:12 JST Paul Cantrell

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     Disney since forever: American Values and Whatnot!!

     Also Disney since forever: The princess is at the center of every story! The royalty is at the center of every society! Down, down with the threat to the crown!

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     Jesse Morris (aubilenon@peoplemaking.games)'s status on Friday, 26-Jul-2024 07:57:59 JST Jesse Morris

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     @inthehands So much Disney revolves around the theme that family is the most important thing - you all have to look out after each other, and heck that even defines who you are. The hero's a hero because they're a princess or a great explorer or important lion or whatever and maybe their stepfamily is awful but their biological family is good so they're inherently good.

     I think this message is harmful! Real people are _not_ automatically good (or bad) because their parents were good (or bad), and people outside your family are important too!

     If your market is families constantly saying "family is the most important" is just savvy business I guess.

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     Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 26-Jul-2024 08:01:58 JST Paul Cantrell

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     • Jesse Morris

     @aubilenon
     I agree completely! And it’s so close to — and in many of those movie also •is• — the very good message that we should form loving bonds and take care of each other. But having that message of care tied up with the message of genetic affiliation is…problematic.

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     Raven667 (raven667@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 26-Jul-2024 12:11:03 JST Raven667

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     @inthehands you know, that would make for an interesting Disney Princess story, kind of like how in Frozen 2 Queen Elsa abdicates in favor of Anna, but with an anti-nepotism message. Have the prince/ss screw up due to hubris and get deposed fleeing like Lion King, they fight their way back, learning to be a better person, like Moana/Maui, but when they defeat the big bad, instead of winning the throne the people don't want them, there is a better leader, and they happily join the common people

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     Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 26-Jul-2024 12:13:21 JST Paul Cantrell

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     • Raven667

     @raven667
     From the summary I heard, _Wish_ flirted with this sort of anti-royalist direction before rejecting it completely in the end.

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     Raven667 (raven667@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 26-Jul-2024 12:29:22 JST Raven667

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     @inthehands I haven't seen it yet and my brain is a little frazzled and can't remember the plots of the Disney movies I _have_ seen to be able to synthesize anything. Looking at a list to refresh my memory, in Encanto the villian is the matriarch who loves her kids and grandkids but needs to resolve her trauma before she destroys her own family. The only way they could have gone harder and still had a happy ending is if they didn't regain their wealth/prestige but were happy together with less